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What if the ESS raised true sec?

Just an idea:
    ▪ make the ESS dirt-cheap
    ▪ a little more nerf to base income (lower than 95%)
    ▪ less worst-case difference between using and not using it
    (▪) make tags too big for interceptors
    (▪) scrap the bubble. If you want a bubble, just anchor one

    ➩ Then there is almost NO reason NOT to use it. Even for lone ratters in bad systems.
    ➩ this leads to frequent successful theft
    ➩ which in turn leads to roaming pinatas ... if that's no incentive for PvP i don't know

Benefits of roaming pinatas:
    ▪ this might lead to an actual income for roaming defense-fleets
    ▪ engaging the thieves might be worth it even when you loose a bunch of ships ➩ more incentive to fight
    ▪ depending on how many tags burn with their thieves in PvP, you can increase the max bonus even more

Impeccable logic.

General consensus of people posting on Alliance threads regarding this pile of DS is that it would be better for the Game if you went right back into hibernation.........and stayed there.

Yes, all those roams to HS where you can shoot the HS alts running missions?
There's a very limited amount you can reduce the effective income amount per account per time interval in nullsec and still expect people to actively live there for PvE. Beyond that, and it might even be more cost&effort-efficient to jumpclone to HS and do missions compared to ratting in nullsec.
Your "idea" would probably cross that line.

The flaw, both with you and the ESS, is that nullsec ratters do have elsewhere to go, so any "stick-incentive" (Read: Use Feature or Take Nerf) won't increase population in nullsec, it will move that population elsewhere.
Which is what happened the other times line-member-income got nerfed.

If the incentive was for example "yes, you can get X% more PI than right now, but only if you actively defend the investment" you'd see the people who didn't care enough still not use it (So no change) and the people who did care would try to actively defend it when possible. An incentive won't scare people off (Although it may make other areas worse by comparison).
Nerfing people out of nullsec won't give small gangs more to do.
Anyone should be able to see that.

I'm again going to post saying that if the entire point of the ESS is to tackle issues with NullSec producing too much ISK (which seems to be the common point of discussion now). Why are we looking at a module where if deployed has no effect on ISK generated in NullSec?

If everyone uses them like CCP seems to want it's not going to tackle the ISK issues at all, it's just changing who gets the ISK, it also opens up the chance for MORE ISK.
So CCP any argument made that this module is being introduced to tackle ISK issues is absurd because it doesn't tackle them at all, it only has the potential to create more ISK generation if used.

Which again goes back to the fact you seem to want the module to fail in its appeal of being used so no one uses it and everyone brings in 5% less ISK.
As everyone has already posted you could do by just lowering all bounties in EVE by 5% and release a statement that you're lowering raw ISK income due to future threats on the economy, where no one would really care.

We're not pissed off you're lowering the bounties by 5% we're pissed off you're lowering them in way which makes no sense then trying to remedy that with a module which then goes against the whole point of lowering bounties for protection against inflation.

Can we please have a developer come in here and start answering the core questions asked and if you insist on going forward with the ESS start working with us so it becomes something both beneficial and wanted within EVE.
Right now in this thread we're all seeing the CCP who made Incarna and not the CCP who made Crucible, if CCP Fozzie can delay changes to heating modules based on feedback why can't Super Friends do the same here?

Right now the issues you face are.

* ESS does not solve ISK generation or inflation issues if used, making the whole 5% bounties nerf pointless.
* ESS doesn't do anything to create fights as is intended.
* ESS Risk vs Reward isn't balanced.
* None of the Sov holders want to use them.
* Defenders are always at a disadvantaged when an organised roam comes into system (PVE vs PVP issue not an ESS one).
* The four variants have no flavour at all.
* The story/lore behind the ESS is unbelievable and unrealistic.

I would ask that others posting start making lists of issues like above in the hopes that CCP will rejoin the thread and start discussing and debating them.

*edit because I make awful typos.

I'm not sure how much this will change, honestly. What I expect is that we'll see fewer new players move to nullsec, and the established nullsec players may move their money alts if they haven't already.
The directly measurable changes will be for the worse, but not the end of the world.
What I can tell you, though, is that CCP aren't trying to improve nullsec in any discernable way, and "welfare for the game" is a good laugh. You really have to make a better attempt than this.
See, it's not just demonstrably wrong (Both currently and historically), it's also naïve and delusional.

A positive change to nullsec won't see members (Both rank-and-file and higher-ups) from all the coalitions, from all the big-name alliances, from most of all alliances visible on freaking Verite maps, complain and be dismayed.
Or at least, not a positive change from the perspective of what nullsec currently is.
If CCP desires to radically change nullsec to fit another vision (Maybe something themepark-ish?), then say so.

My niece noticed my dog was thirsty, and responded by preparing a bowl of chocolate milk.

I caught it pretty quickly, and put an end to that....But she had good intentions -- she was just trying to give the dog a treat and satiate it's thirst.

I had to explain to her that chocolate is poison to dogs.

Exactly.

one of the things CCP doesn't understand is that a lot of alliances have the unwritten rule of "don't crap where you eat" ie don't engage in pvp in your pve grounds because that just encourages them to come back because they know they can get a fight.

If they understood this concept they would not think a potential 5% increase in in eventual pay out would be a reason to launch a "come get some pvp here" beacon.......

but this doesn't come close to that. there is 0 incentive to fight with it the way it is. infact there is only incentive to leave nullsec. so instead of your roams getting a couple bad ratters you will see empty system after empty system with the only people still around hanging out in staging systems, where you get out gunned 10 to 1. really great for small gang pvp there.