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The Capacitor and It's Effects

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Zippzorz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-16 07:03:05 UTC
SO, You may correct me if I'm wrong (I'd rather you do) but this is my assumption on what the capacitor is and how it works.

Now there are a few sustainable power sources that we know of so far that may be useful in space travel, Fuel (which we use now for the shuttles and rockets) yet it has a limit to how much can be used at a time and also it is volatile and dangerous. Nuclear, t'is a power source we all know to well, it's HOT, radioactive, powerful, dirty, and ultimately could be useful for space travel if it wasn't so feared and well... unreliable. Finally Ionic energy and this one has been looked at multiple times and is the most prominent of the power sources. Now I'm no scientific genius but from what I know Ionic energy is all around us and in the EVE universe I believe the capacitor is without a doubt ion based for reasons that ionic energy with the right use of electromagnetic energy can actually be drawn in and stored in a stable state by the use of gravitational stasis or magnetic force in fuel cells. Now because of this ships in EVE would without a doubt act as massive ion collection units (like giant mobile solar panels with guns all over them) whilst be the reason why the cap recharges over time. Ion jets are also a normal means of propulsion, all the ships use them but are different colored exhaust because of the different yet similar methods of ion storage and dispersion. Now this ion energy can be change into electric energy through stasis conversion within the capacitor itself thus giving power to modules that use electricity such as rail-guns or blasters or ECM. Now for laser based weapons using that ionic energy directly from the cap and lacing it with different frequencies such as gamma or radio through the use of focusing crystals. Thus is how I believe the capacitor in all ships work, if I'm wrong and you'd like to correct me please leave a comment either then that if I'm right then yay me!
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2014-01-16 07:42:46 UTC
I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the four races use distinctly different methods for generating and containing energy.

Amarr use 'Antimatter Reactors' - almost certainly relying on Matter-Antimatter annihilation - and Tesseract Capacitor Units.

Caldari use 'Graviton Reactors' and 'Scalar Capacitor Units' - the technology behind these being unclear.

Gallente use 'Fusion Reactors' - almost certainly some variety of Hydrogen/Helium fusion - and 'Oscillator Capacitor Units' to store energy.

Minmatar use 'Nuclear Reactors'; whether these are Fission or Fusion reactors (and if the latter, how they are different from Gallente designs) is unclear. They use 'Electrolytic Capacitor Units' to store energy; as Electrolysis refers to the use of an electric current to drive a chemical reaction, I think it is a safe bet to assume they are some form of chemical cell not to different from modern-day capacitors and batteries.

(Source: Construction component items.)
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#3 - 2014-01-16 09:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Solarienne
I assume that graviton reactors might function by inducing motion in a flywheel or other energy capture device by exposing portions of it to gravitational force generated (by space magic) in the reactor. This would allow the transmission and storage of kinetic energy into kinetic potential energy that can be harnessed by engaging electricity generating turbines to the flywheel and bleeding off the kinetic energy when needed. In theory, this means the grav reactor doesn't need to run at full whack, as ultra-low friction could allow the flywheel (or other) spinning component to retain momentum for an appreciable length of time, with the turbines slowing it down dramatically on a periodic basis.

It is interesting to note that the Caldari seem to have a good grasp of gravity harnessing technlogies (possibly driven by resource scarcity and prolonged conflict according to their history), but the Amarr have a literally multi-dimensional capacitor, unless Tesseract is a brand label.

A tesseract is to a cube, what a cube is to a square, and in this format it effectively means that the capacitor has extended physical dimensions (euclidean dimensionality), the effect of which is (in sci fi terms) additional volume/material in which charge can be stored. This would go someway to explaining the use of energy weapons if the technology was not limited to starship capacitors, as the sheer fuel costs of operating power hungry particle and laser weaponry would be far less of a concern with miniaturised components that can deliver the kick of industrial equivalents.

The individual technological achievements of the four races are glossed over almost entirely, but are staggering in their application if considered even within the context of this sci fi universe.

The Gallente lead the way in artificial intelligence (drone) control systems and so on, but also represent the foremost nation in terms of crystalline alloy technologies if their hull plating is anything to go by.

The Minmatar seem to be geniuses in the field of miniaturisation and optimisation. Electromechanical processors might be molecule-scale mechanical difference engines, delivering the processing power of a supercomputer from chips that could still be considered miniscule, despite the reliance on chemical or atomic-electirc-charge forces to 'turn' the molecule sized components. Similarly, the fact that their electrolytic capacitors, though statistically inferior to other equivalents, can compete in combat terms, would indicate an extremely advanced capability in chemical engineering and related fields.

It would be nice to know more, for example do starships represent the pinnacle of technological advancement in EVE, or are their civil applications that trump even these amazing technological devices in complexity and power?

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Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#4 - 2014-01-16 17:02:10 UTC
I strongly believe our capacitors are based on a chocolate ion shoots and I ain't even joking. If you consider the plasmatic fluctuations of the micro-spectrum sugar additions in the state-of-art quantum self-unstable electromagnectic boxes of the neutron hyperbole capacitor storages (which are created by mixing nuclear & antimatter particles on sub-atomic levels - see any blueprint details for spaceships in EVE), you can create nearly perfect conditions for a recharging mechanism that allows completely time-energy biased curve of electro-magnetic sugar (!) free quantum particle accelerator with the rate of C = Cmax * [ 1 + ( SQRT(C0/Cmax) - 1 ) * EXP((t0-t1)/tau) ] ^ 2 % depletation over dC/dt = (SQRT(C/Cmax) - C/Cmax) * 2 * Cmax / tau which are EXACTLY the same original formulas of the recharge rate of any capacitor calculated through mathematical demonstration.

I hope this makes things clear! Smile

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#5 - 2014-01-16 17:10:21 UTC
Caroline Grace wrote:
I strongly believe our capacitors are based on a chocolate ion shoots and I ain't even joking. If you consider the plasmatic fluctuations of the micro-spectrum sugar additions in the state-of-art quantum self-unstable electromagnectic boxes of the neutron hyperbole capacitor storages (which are created by mixing nuclear & antimatter particles on sub-atomic levels - see any blueprint details for spaceships in EVE), you can create nearly perfect conditions for a recharging mechanism that allows completely time-energy biased curve of electro-magnetic sugar (!) free quantum particle accelerator with the rate of C = Cmax * [ 1 + ( SQRT(C0/Cmax) - 1 ) * EXP((t0-t1)/tau) ] ^ 2 % depletation over dC/dt = (SQRT(C/Cmax) - C/Cmax) * 2 * Cmax / tau which are EXACTLY the same original formulas of the recharge rate of any capacitor calculated through mathematical demonstration.

I hope this makes things clear! Smile


Now we just need a way to exploit it for inifite chocolate supply.

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Zippzorz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-01-16 18:25:02 UTC
Thank you kindly for all of the replies everyone and helping me shed some light on the whereabouts of the various capacitors and how they work!
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#7 - 2014-01-17 09:29:57 UTC
No problem. I really hope EVE Source or some wiki articles start to go into a bit more depth about what the tin cans we fly around are made of in scifi terms.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#8 - 2014-01-17 09:45:52 UTC
Esna Pitoojee wrote:


Amarr use 'Antimatter Reactors'


But but ! If an hybrid turret ship were to use an Antimatter Reactor, it means that we could put Antimatter ammo into the capacitor ! Via Capacitor Boosters for instance !

CCP please make Antimatter charge XL a viable ammo for Capacitor Boosters :D

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#9 - 2014-01-23 13:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Owen Levanth
Altrue wrote:
Esna Pitoojee wrote:


Amarr use 'Antimatter Reactors'


But but ! If an hybrid turret ship were to use an Antimatter Reactor, it means that we could put Antimatter ammo into the capacitor ! Via Capacitor Boosters for instance !

CCP please make Antimatter charge XL a viable ammo for Capacitor Boosters :D


I don't want to rain on your parade, but the capacitor stores energy produced by the reactor and this energy is probably boring old electromagnetic energy or something. An antimatter-reactor would use up matter/antimatter in equal portions anyway, so even dumping your ammo directly into your reactor wouldn't change much. You could blow up your own ship if you **** up the injection process, however.

New module: Direct Reactor Transfer Array. Uses 1 Antimatter XL charge and 1 other XL ammo charge to directly inject fuel into your reactor. 50% chance of capacitor immediately being refueled to the max by the sudden energy influx and 50% chance of your ship immediately blowing up. If your ship doesn't use an antimatter-reactor, your ship blows up every time you use the module.

Fun times! Lol