Intergalactic Summit

A few notes on this page of the thread:



I'm fairly certain the topic must have been brought up once or twice in Yulai. However, politics are politics... and the words spoken in those chambers are often as useful as everybody's ranting here on the IGS.




An invasion almost always violates the laws of the invaded sovereign nation. I'd think that's a fairly obvious and useless point to make. The conqueror answers to laws it choose to answer to, not to the laws of those it is conquering. Unless, of course, they fail miserably.



Does the Yulai Convention apply retroactively? If not, then what you've said there is pointless. If so, could you provide a relevant source?



Yes. They most certainly do. However, the State has its own actions to answer for as well.

So, you concede that none of the Ushra'Khan, the Electus Matari or the Tribal Liberation Force are criminals, and that there is no need for soldiers of the Republic to respect any law of teh Empire or personal right of an Imperial citizen? Good to know, that clears up a lot of questions I have about the operating conditions of my new job.

Are you suggesting that the Empire has never committed crimes?



No, that's precisely what you're saying - that it's perfectly acceptable for you to violate the laws of a sovereign nation if you feel like it. You seem to have no regard for laws and statutes it would be inconvenient for you or your Empire to follow, regardless of whether they're obliged to do so or not. Why should we be any different?

see, that's the problem!
why do you asume you fall under the definition of human?

you may be sweet and cuddly when you are puppies gallenteans but you tend to become anoying pests when you grow up! you are dealt with accordingly.

And so we see the true, honest face of Amarrian belief - they don't think of people they disagree with as humans. This is what they don't want people to see, but occasionally slips out anyway - that they get selective about who they consider human. Answer me this: if Amarrians do not consider the humans - and they are humans, no matter what you say - why should we consider Amarrians to be human? What justification do you have for acting surprised and appalled when thousands of Amarrians die in so-called "terrorist" acts? We've decided you're just not human, after all. What right do you have to complain?

See why this logic just doesn't work?

Oh, alright then. I suppose we just take your word for it? Please accept my appoligies for requiring more than just a simple 3 word statement that is completely unsupported. This is the kind of argument I have come to know and love from my 5 year old grandson. Using your oratory skills, the next response should be "No they're not."

Regardless of what else has been said on here, I must ask you where is your legal precedence? Where is your evidence? Precisely which laws and statutes have been violated and by whom, on what dates with which witnesses to coroburate the claims? Take your pre-school arguments home and return when you have something of substance.

Again, Minmatar raid their own populace, kidnap their own people, and sell them to some that are affiliated withTthe Empire, as well as many that most would consider much worse. Does this make the entire Republic responsible for those actions?

Come and try.

The rest of your drivel was self-serving gibberish with no evidence to back it up other than "because we say so". Unfortunately, reality seems to be against you in that regard.

(I'd also like to note it's absolutely ******* hilarious to see a man who claims to be a member of a "superior race" yet can't even manage to use proper grammar and spelling. Talk about falling before the first hurdle...)

But you haven't even proven you're on my level, let alone superior to me. All you've done is declare "I'm superior to you", insisted it's true because... well, you say it is (something I'm pretty sure Amarrians have criticised me for doing in the past, so watch for that double standard).

The thing is, the supposedly unassailable superiority of your Empire is an outright lie. You're technologically stunted compared to the other three major nations in the cluster - despite the fact that one of them had to rebuild their technological base from scratch in less than a century literally from spare parts. You've lost about a third of its territory in the past two centuries, and the only time you've had any success in this current war is when you were forced to plead for assistance from the Caldari. You helped create Sansha's Nation, the second-largest threat to civilization (including whatever passes for "civilization" in the Empire, no less) and then, when you realised what you'd done, you had to plead for help from all three of the other nations - including the Minmatar - to assist you in ending that threat. An entire armada was lost to a Jovian fleet not even one-third its size.

Your naval fleets are so inept that when communications with superiors are lost even for a few minutes, your carriers crash into one another.

I will concede this much: in terms of irony, you are certainly superior to all other races.

A lot of excuse-making for abject failures on the part of supposed Amarrian superiority, but one tiny gem of truth. Broken clocks are, of course, right twice a day:



So close, and yet so far.