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Less time than it took you to get those brain cells set to outrage.



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It must be done and many and a counter made to show how often it happens.

Well I'll be damned, he's right. I guess it has been quite a few years since I've lived in a wormhole, I've forgotten a few things. Anyway, my overall point still stands I think.


Sure, go for it. Put it in F&I. My only point was, and is, that a nerf + ESS (giving the non-risk averse a chance to avoid said nerf) is better than a straight up nerf, which is likely coming.

Maybe the ESS makes some null bears a little less risk averse. Maybe your suggestion gets more people into nullsec. Doesn't make a huge difference to me either way.

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ESS won't get used much.

Ratters won't use it as it allows someone else to "steal" their ratting income.

PVPers won't use it, as soon as a ratter sees this thing go up in local, they'll log, or wait till local is clear to go shoot it. (likely in fighter assists shuttles or ceptors)

Useless is useless. If you wanted to nerf null, just reduce the bounties, no need to waste all this time, effort and money on a useless structure that no one will use. (other than a bubble that announces in local someone is getting caught LOL, why can't we have anti-cloak stuff again?)

I think that everyone before me has laid out all the flaws with the ESS. It is a bad idea and I don't think I'd be wrong in saying that the teams working on this should have been put to work on something useful. I for one would much rather see CCP spend a year on POSes than this useless stuff.

Hahaha...

Damage control for a bad game design decision, that had an impact on ISK sinks, implemented as a nerf to another area of the game. But it's not a flat over the board nerf - it's a nerf in a form of a pointlessly complicated new game mechanic that mimics... waaait for it... Tax return forms!!!

This is simply hilarious.

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And don't blame Team Super Friends. They are doing pretty good job. Finding a way to implement tax return forms into an internet spaceships game needs a lot of creativity. Those who gave the task of creating RL bureaucracy forms into the game to the team should reconsider what they are doing.

Nice idea. Best of all mobile structure.
More PvP. Pay 20% or Fight.

I only go to null sec to roam for targets, I typically have no sympathy for them and their null-bear issues but these ESS seem like an unecessary Nerf to their income. We don't want to see them being reduced to pvping in rag tag cruiser fleets. Or do we...

I'm seriously perplexed by the strong outcry against this.

Is it the ESS module? You don't have to use it, they're not cheap so it's unlikely they'll be dropped like candy when they can be cleared out if unwanted. If that's really the case, the ESS needs to be balanced so that there's an incentive to using them (what is that, 20% more income, 30%, 50%?).

Is it the 5% nerf to base bounties? If 5% is such a big loss, why aren't people rejoicing in the possibility of 10% more if you use the ESS correctly? In some ways, it's a tangent to the ESS module itself and an independent discussion, there's no requirement for any change to the base nullsec bounty for the module to work.

Is it the balance of cashing out from the ESS? That can be worked on, it isn't really cause to say CCP have lost the plot- in its current state, I wouldn't say interceptors are an instant 'I steal' or 'free income' button, but further iteration may occur to further prevent this.

All I see is a bunch of stubborn assholes who believe that they're entitled to the 100% income they currently receive via ratting and anoms, made practically 100% safe by virtue of intel channels and attentiveness to local (is that really a skill?). Somehow vast swathes of EVE players have arrived at the conclusion that PVE in null is a masochistic activity for which they should be rewarded and any attempt to change it is an assault on their ability to martyr themselves as the ISK miners of EVE.

I'm also surprised that the big blocs are reacting so negatively to it- are your ratters not coddled enough? Do you even see much of that 5% (do the math- average tax rate is 10%, so that's only 0.5% reduction to what corps get)? Do you doubt your ability to police your own space and make policy on the usage of ESSs in your space?

The purpose of the ESS is to force a portion of that income to be made available to fight over by anyone who cares to turn up and try and take it and to push nullsec PVE to have some PVP elements to it- a refreshing and laudable aim.

Rubicon is meant to be shaking things up and this threadnaught seems to me like CCP have finally found a pain-point for which people will go up in arms about. I hope that they'll continue to push it and force people to fight for their income in-game rather than caving to the initial entitled outrage reaction.