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EVE Online: Crucible - Now on Singularity

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-11-24 08:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Oh my god...

Guys when you moved our bookmarks from our computers to your new database, you efficiently deleted all the folders.
Now I have 254 unsorted misc bookmarks in 1 folder.

Is this a joke?

Apparently folders are still stored locally and get linked to bookmarks as before. False alarm. My bad.

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CCP Legion
#22 - 2011-11-24 09:12:53 UTC
Salpun wrote:
I have lost control of the camera in the CQ.


Could you submit a bug report with logs if still possible? Are you able to reproduce this?

@CCP_Legion | Producer

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#23 - 2011-11-24 09:59:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
CCP Legion wrote:
Salpun wrote:
I have lost control of the camera in the CQ.


Could you submit a bug report with logs if still possible? Are you able to reproduce this?

BR #119625. Just reproduced it on the same computer. Diffrent logins get the same results. Its mixed with a bulk data down load everytime to. Repair the client does not fix it either hope it goes a way with a new build.

Just submited a new BR with your name on it.

Load bulk date = camera bug.

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CCP Bayesian
#24 - 2011-11-24 11:11:04 UTC
Salpun wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
Salpun wrote:
I have lost control of the camera in the CQ.


Could you submit a bug report with logs if still possible? Are you able to reproduce this?

BR #119625. Just reproduced it on the same computer. Diffrent logins get the same results. Its mixed with a bulk data down load everytime to. Repair the client does not fix it either hope it goes a way with a new build.

Just submited a new BR with your name on it.

Load bulk date = camera bug.


Hey, thanks for the bug report, we've seen a few previous occurrences of this in earlier builds for this release and I've fixed a whole load of potential issues but it seems there are still more out there! Evil

We've not managed to reproduce this internally so I'd be grateful if you could answer a few questions to help pin down what's happening here:

  • When you move the character around the environment does the camera follow along?
  • When you click and hold a mouse button to try and rotate the camera what do you see the mouse cursor doing?
  • Do you routinely have any UI open or do anything whilst the CQ is loading?
  • Once this has happened does it persist even when you completely close and reopen the client?


EVE Software Engineer Team Space Glitter

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#25 - 2011-11-24 11:24:14 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Salpun wrote:
CCP Legion wrote:
Salpun wrote:
I have lost control of the camera in the CQ.


Could you submit a bug report with logs if still possible? Are you able to reproduce this?

BR #119625. Just reproduced it on the same computer. Diffrent logins get the same results. Its mixed with a bulk data down load everytime to. Repair the client does not fix it either hope it goes a way with a new build.

Just submited a new BR with your name on it.

Load bulk date = camera bug.


Hey, thanks for the bug report, we've seen a few previous occurrences of this in earlier builds for this release and I've fixed a whole load of potential issues but it seems there are still more out there! Evil

We've not managed to reproduce this internally so I'd be grateful if you could answer a few questions to help pin down what's happening here:

  • When you move the character around the environment does the camera follow along?

  • yes


  • When you click and hold a mouse button to try and rotate the camera what do you see the mouse cursor doing?

  • curser center screen

  • Do you routinely have any UI open or do anything whilst the CQ is loading?

  • No

    Did the NPE up to the mining agent first mission and used the ship interface on the CQ balcany to switch ships. seemed to start it.

    Bulk data being requred stated after that test on a third alt. Same symptems on all starts from sisi launcher.


  • Once this has happened does it persist even when you completely close and reopen the client?

  • yes bulk data loads every time



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Commander Xian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2011-11-24 11:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Xian
One thing related to the solar system map and scanning.

Why did you choose to limit how much we can zoom out to something this low? Scanning or managing Combat or Deep Space probes on max range is a serious pain now as well as it is just to manage several Core probes with 32 AU range. You cannot even view all of the large systems, so you now need to drag your probes, move view, drag probes again, rinse and repeat.

All this because you changed the upper limit on how much one can zoom out on the solar map.

A suggestion for scanning and for giving Deep Space probes some meaning... Loosen up on the idea that every site has to spawn within 4 AU of a planet. Let some be in deep space so you actually could benefit from not having every wannabe scanner out there able to find them in a niffy with little to no skill at all. Give Deep Space probes meaning!

A compromise could be that planets actually was moving in the orbits shown on the solar map and the signature spawned within 4 AU of where the planet were when it spawned. But really, having the 4 AU limit is simply dull as you never find remote sites you could hope to find on your own. The sense of exploration is limited to a race these days to beat the competition rather than a feel of finding a rare and undiscovered site in deep space.

I did a few magsites in 0.5 systems and the outcome was just as poor as always. I think I got salvage parts for around 20000 ISK. And that even from low signature sites. Did you forget to buff them? They are really not worth it still.

Otherwise an awesome expansion, looking forward to it. I especially love the nebulae, engine trails and warp tunnels. Better and warmer lighting in the captains quaters made chars less pale too. Good job on that as well. Big smile
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-11-24 11:29:39 UTC
I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#28 - 2011-11-24 11:33:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.


Time to see if my Win7-32 bit will break the same way if i do what i did with the 64 wish me luck lol


Requiring a bulk data down load started on this computer to after the down time.

warp after effects red green when zoomed out with tactical over view are still happening.

NPE info at the academy Offices need to be linked to the marked not contracts.

If a contaner is loot alled and all loot is taken. it should close not stay on space and have to be closed.

Error was not reproducable in Win7-32 bit.

same character loading on the Win7-64 bit loaded bulk data and had error.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Blue Harrier
#29 - 2011-11-24 11:45:28 UTC
Some feed back for you for build 320042.

I can confirm the AA problem is fixed for me, both the Planet View and Map now work with AA on or off.

The problem with the My Wallet not loading the ‘Transactions’ is still not working.

There is also a minor problem with the Customs Office
Have you moved them slightly as my bookmarks don’t take me to the CO like they used too, that’s how I found the problem.

When I came out of warp next to the CO (I open the ‘Access CO menu on the way), the small ‘Cargo’ icon on the Select Items window was lit up but the distance quoted was 12Km not the usual 2.2 to 2.5Km I was expecting.

I also received the message I had to be within 2.5Km to drag and drop the item into my cargo hold. So it seems the Icon is lighting up well before the expected 2.5 threshold is reached. It did not do that before.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#30 - 2011-11-24 12:53:24 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.


Time to see if my Win7-32 bit will break the same way if i do what i did with the 64 wish me luck lol


Requiring a bulk data down load started on this computer to after the down time.

warp after effects red green when zoomed out with tactical over view are still happening.

NPE info at the academy Offices need to be linked to the marked not contracts.

If a contaner is loot alled and all loot is taken. it should close not stay on space and have to be closed.

Error was not reproducable in Win7-32 bit.

same character loading on the Win7-64 bit loaded bulk data and had error.



Test of Win7-32 bit updated.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#31 - 2011-11-24 14:25:45 UTC
New sisilauncher update did not fix the bulk date issue.

What was updated?

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

CCP Bayesian
#32 - 2011-11-24 15:46:25 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.


Time to see if my Win7-32 bit will break the same way if i do what i did with the 64 wish me luck lol


Requiring a bulk data down load started on this computer to after the down time.

warp after effects red green when zoomed out with tactical over view are still happening.

NPE info at the academy Offices need to be linked to the marked not contracts.

If a contaner is loot alled and all loot is taken. it should close not stay on space and have to be closed.

Error was not reproducable in Win7-32 bit.

same character loading on the Win7-64 bit loaded bulk data and had error.



Test of Win7-32 bit updated.


Thanks for the info, we're still trying to track down a solid repro for this but have managed to actually reproduce it in-house so fingers crossed we're on the way to fixing it.

EVE Software Engineer Team Space Glitter

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#33 - 2011-11-24 15:48:43 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.


Time to see if my Win7-32 bit will break the same way if i do what i did with the 64 wish me luck lol


Requiring a bulk data down load started on this computer to after the down time.

warp after effects red green when zoomed out with tactical over view are still happening.

NPE info at the academy Offices need to be linked to the marked not contracts.

If a contaner is loot alled and all loot is taken. it should close not stay on space and have to be closed.

Error was not reproducable in Win7-32 bit.

same character loading on the Win7-64 bit loaded bulk data and had error.



Test of Win7-32 bit updated.


Thanks for the info, we're still trying to track down a solid repro for this but have managed to actually reproduce it in-house so fingers crossed we're on the way to fixing it.

nice yay us. glad i found it before release.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Hamster Too
Golden Fowl
#34 - 2011-11-24 17:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamster Too
Missile descriptions for both Fury and Precision types still mention the penalties that have been removed in Crucible.

P.S. Bulk data download on every startup is back :(
Blue Harrier
#35 - 2011-11-24 20:12:33 UTC
Build 320443

My Wallet 'Transactions' is fixed for me.

Thanks.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#36 - 2011-11-24 20:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
New build did not freeze at log in was a change made?

Bulk data processes takes a while but no down load.

Chat is not moveable on one character.
Second load up the client went unresponsive while proccessing bulk data and restarted my computer but failed to load had to manualy restart locking up during start up Not solved Computer still broke

Win7 32 bit started a update using the new launcher. second start up of CQ used 940MB of memery


Update: Reset of the computer start up logic reset all settings but did load.
Somethings wrong.

After computer reboot mouse bug is back

Chat is messed up now moveable but every thing is yellow

Changing UI size breaks the minumiize fuction of window specifily People and places

Still can not make corp BM

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See you around the universe.

Oberine Noriepa
#37 - 2011-11-24 22:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Oberine Noriepa
Would it be possible for a dev to give the "New nebulas, ruined potential" thread some love? The thread basically inquires about the possibility of an optional patch for higher quality nebulae. (By "higher quality", something with image quality that's on par with the the Crucible wallpapers is desirable.) I know it isn't something of the highest priority, but we would really like to know what you guys think. Blink

There's also this post combo by CCP t0rfifrans and CCP Atropos that sort of gives some hope, but we'd really like to know if it's something we can actually look forward to. There are quite a bit of people who are interested in such a patch. How difficult would it be to release something like this?

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-11-25 02:55:34 UTC
CCP Gangleri wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
CCP Gangleri wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Clicking "my wallet -> transactions -> load" still hangs the wallet, but reply to the bug report I filed earlier mentioned it being fixed internally... Recheck please.


Can you please post the bug report ID here so I can follow up on this?

Sure thing...
118658


The log with that bug report is massively long and has a ton of exceptions linked to other issues that have in fact been fixed, I had to dig for a while before I found the one that actually looked relevant to your issue. Have notified the relevant team, but can't promise a fix will make it into the first release since it may take a while to find the root cause.

Thanks for taking the time to report this.


Seems to be fixed in latest SiSi RC.
Thank you.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2011-11-25 03:26:02 UTC
Ok...

- There is new UI/Chat related bug where player name appears twice when he writes something.
- As side note: chat window contains 3 sections and each one contains different size/type of font with different spacing?

[img]https://bugs.eveonline.com/files/8841125319141.jpg[/img]

Bugreport id: 119704




Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#40 - 2011-11-25 03:30:28 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Ok...

- There is new UI/Chat related bug where player name appears twice when he writes something.
- As side note: chat window contains 3 sections and each one contains different size/type of font with different spacing?

[img]https://bugs.eveonline.com/files/8841125319141.jpg[/img]

Bugreport id: 119704






That "feature" was so well know I did not bug report it becouse its got to be a know issue. lol Thanks for sending the bug report. I was hoping to have a bug free build by now but no such luck. Two weeks and they are still cuting it close.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.