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Elite: Dangerous v EVE

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#21 - 2014-01-14 16:10:38 UTC
Oosel wrote:
i only started to play eve because of the original elite which i'd played over and over in various formats bbc, spectrum48k, atari st and c64.......i really couldnt get enough of the game and for me eve was an evolution of that game and was multi player and it has been the only space game that ever competed with it.

i honestly think that elite dangerous will be an evolution of elite and eve combined and hope that it does take me away from eve but until its out and im playing it eve will continue to be my game of choice as it has been for over 10 years

I came to EVE Online for the same reasons and causes. But I find that EVE is only remotely like Elite - too many differences to call them competitors. If Elite: D is anything remotely faithful to Elite, I don't see much overlap, nor any threat to EVE at all.

Elite: D might be a good game to play whilst I mine... Oh, wait. I don't mine. P
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#22 - 2014-01-16 11:31:00 UTC
Other one you got coming is star citizen, either way ccp are in for some strong compertition
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#23 - 2014-01-16 12:00:34 UTC
raven666wings wrote:


It's somewhat understandable that CCP's stakeholders might be afraid to lose costumers to a game like Elite



I would have thought that the recent drop in subscriptions from costumers might have something to do with the majority of them being busy due to the recent party and pantomime season. RL comes first.

Just saying.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Yosef Brinalle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-01-17 11:39:30 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Some people don't understand how powerful non-consensual experiences are to binding a playerbase to a game experience.


The term is Stockholm Syndrome
Reiisha
#25 - 2014-01-17 12:47:56 UTC
Yes, i see how a twitch-based singleplayer game with instanced multiplayer focusing on exploration is a direct competitor to an RTS-style non-instanced PvP focused MMO focusing on planning and economy.

EVE will die off horribly once this Elite game is released.



(I will be playing both anyway.)

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#26 - 2014-02-01 12:43:57 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Quick update on Elite: Dangerous' status


- Dev Diary #10 - Released

The latest dev diary video has been released announcing the release of the Alpha phase 2.0– Multiplayer build. In it David talks about other Alpha phases we will be releasing before the game progresses to Beta. You can view the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrcOLEdrvw


- Alpha Phase Two - Multiplayer

The Alpha Phase Two is ready! We are currently testing it locally and early next week Alpha players will be able to download the multiplayer phase of our Alpha build. We will email you directly as it goes live.
In addition to the existing single player combat scenarios there will be four new scenarios in a totally new location. You can expect:

Factions: Two sides battling it out
Capital Ship Defense: Defend a damaged Federal Battlecruiser against numerous foe
Miners and Law Men: Protect or pirate miners going about their business, you choose how you want to play!
Free for all: battle it out in an, all against all, melee

Player can also earn credits in each scenario that can be used to purchase ship loadouts.

This is an incredibly exciting and important phase in the development of Elite: Dangerous - player stat tracking, the multiplayer networking code and associated management are all big new systems that are being tested with this build, plus it's the first time we will be able to test how the game mechanics will perform with significant numbers of players all playing at the same time.


- Approaching Beta

Many of you have been asking us when we will be releasing the Beta.

It will be released when each phase of the Alpha has been released and we've acted on the feedback we get from it. As David mentioned in Dev Diary #10 after next week's Alpha 2.0 we still have 2 major Alpha releases to roll out before we reach the Premium Beta stage; Outfitting, Travel & Trading.


source: Elite: Dangerous newsletter #16
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#27 - 2014-02-01 12:45:40 UTC
Huh, I don't know about you guys, but to me this game is looking like it's gonna hit the spot in a way that EVE won't be able to in the next 20 years.
Tarpedo
Incursionista
#28 - 2014-02-02 14:13:53 UTC
Don't worry for EVE/CCP: CCP know what to do if subs will shrink - they'll fire some people, make some promises, do some debugs and everything will be fine.

Also FPS simulators aren't direct competitors for EVE - even when they have half-a** sandbox attached.
Reiisha
#29 - 2014-02-02 15:31:02 UTC
I don't understand the problem, i'll be playing both. They're completely different games.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#30 - 2014-02-02 15:38:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Dragon Outlaw
raven666wings wrote:
Huh, I don't know about you guys, but to me this game is looking like it's gonna hit the spot in a way that EVE won't be able to in the next 20 years.


I to look forward to play this game. I have a feeling it will be a nice surprise when it finally hits the market. I do not think it will kill Eve but I am pretty sure a significant number of Eve's players will give it a try and eventually, they will put most of their gaming time in it. Eve has gone stale in the past year or two with a lot of issues CCP seem not to care about. The last events in null sec just made things worst.

ED will surely provide new pleasures and excitement. Will try it for sure!!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#31 - 2014-04-27 20:11:21 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Quick update on Elite: Dangerous' status

In this issue we’ll be taking a look at one of the most important features of Elite: Dangerous; Trading. We go into detail on how we have been able to handle the complexities of developing a galactic trading market with the help of ‘MiniElite’ and the economies and commodities you can expect to encounter and trade with in Alpha 4.
This weekend is also your last chance to purchase Alpha access. Details of this are in the ‘Start Playing Today’ section.
In this newsletter:

Table of Contents (click subject to jump forward):

  • Trading Places

  • Sneak Peak - Planetary Rings

  • Cool Running part 2

  • Start Playing Today

  • Comms Chatter

  • Mostly Harmless Questions


    • source: Elite: Dangerous newsletter #20
    Bertrand Butler
    Cras es Noster
    #32 - 2014-04-28 08:41:02 UTC
    If Elite:Dangerous goes well and becomes the game David Braben wants it to be, it will be the best game to play simultaneously with EvE...C:

    In other news, I have made a thread for it without the vs shenanigans here.
    Inari Visas
    Federal Navy Academy
    #33 - 2014-04-28 09:02:33 UTC
    This thread is really reaching. I would like the same googles you wear so I can notice where EVE copies from ELITE. Because with the googles I wear now, I just don't see it.
    Bertrand Butler
    Cras es Noster
    #34 - 2014-04-28 10:48:55 UTC
    Well, one thing is for sure...carebear style will be relevant for both games...

    http://thargoidandfer-de-lance.com/songs/elitecarebear.mp3
    Samued Ryan
    New American Syndicate
    #35 - 2014-04-30 09:54:28 UTC
    Inari Visas wrote:
    This thread is really reaching. I would like the same googles you wear so I can notice where EVE copies from ELITE. Because with the googles I wear now, I just don't see it.


    I think this might answer your question:

    Gamasutra 2005 wrote:
    “The founders had two passions which they wanted to join,” explained Richardsson. “The sci-fi feel and vastness of space from Elite and the social interaction of massively multiplayer and player vs. player gaming from Ultima Online.


    Elite was a big influence on the original concept of EVE Online. Though now Elite is back in the market I expect EVE to try and downplay it's ancestry.
    Snagletooth Johnson
    Center for Advanced Studies
    Gallente Federation
    #36 - 2014-04-30 12:10:30 UTC
    Elite D Vs Eve
    SC Vs Eve

    Eve is so hardcore, it's committing non-consensual PvP on other games!
    raven666wings
    Cyber Chaos Crew
    #37 - 2014-04-30 13:36:45 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
    Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
    Elite D Vs Eve
    SC Vs Eve

    Eve is so hardcore, it's committing non-consensual PvP on other games!


    You got it wrong, it's the other games that are commiting non-consensual PvP on EVE while it's trying to get some isk.
    raven666wings
    Cyber Chaos Crew
    #38 - 2014-04-30 14:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
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    raven666wings
    Cyber Chaos Crew
    #39 - 2014-04-30 17:44:57 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
    Quick update on Elite: Dangerous' status

    Backers: 46,872

    Funds Raised: £2,641,582 (USD $4,226,531)
    raven666wings
    Cyber Chaos Crew
    #40 - 2014-04-30 17:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
    Samued Ryan wrote:
    Elite was a big influence on the original concept of EVE Online. Though now Elite is back in the market I expect EVE to try and downplay it's ancestry.


    Lol that and trying to copy some of Elite Dangerous' features and assets while hoping it will pass under their player's radar... ridiculous... they even removed the profession certificates from the character sheets because the top certification level was "Elite" Roll

    Edit: Oh yeah... and not to mention all the marketing around Valkyrie "The Pioneer in VR simulators *stroke CCPeen* yada yada" when Elite Dangerous with Rift support is already out and playable and its experience looking way better Lol