EVE General Discussion

Prepare, just make sure comms are working and mic is live, have a drink handy and make damn sure that family is unlikely to 'need' me

I hate losing people. It happens but a lot less than you might think. Acceptable? The fleet I fly with has an SRP for a reason. You can donate to it and be insured till next down time, simple enough. They also automatically SRP logis (conditions apply)

In a mom site a logi can pop even if everything is done right. Alpha can be that bad.

Again, with the folks I fly with there are assigned anchors, you put them on the watch list and orbit at 5k or whatever the fc says. Simple enough. For the sites with gates you are expected to be able to keep up and be where you need to be.

For logis, targetting and reaction time IS important. you daydream, somebody dies. As others have said. Logis have the most effect on the chances of survival for everybody else. I seldom run more than an hour or two at a stretch as a result.

For a fleet of 40, you have some on the watch list. but if they don't broadcast and they die, there is no blame at the door of the logi.

You get into a routine. Well I do, anyways. Scanning the ships that are being repped, the watch list, make sure still orbitting anchor then the broadcasts to see if any are 'in position' (code for reps can stop, aggro has shifted), rinse, repeat.

I fly shield fleets most of the time, the non bling ones like Valhalla and Warp to Me. I have flown armor with the Ditanian fleet. There are good folks willing to teach you the ropes if you want to learn. Warp to Me even runs a logi school on a regular basis. I assume some of the others do as well. Each also has recommended fits linked on their motd.

The logi is not the most expensive ship but it has a fair training time . Things balance out.

If you find that it is too stress inducing , , , take it in small doses or find a less frantic play style. There are so many things to do in Eve and you are not required to be good at all of them

hell, I am not sure I am good at any of them

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You could always try a smaller incursion community, logistics are always wanted by them..
And they are normally a lost less stressful and can be good fun.

yeah but I'm a level 4 (only 21 days left until level 5) basilisk which isn't that useful in vanguard sites.

You'll adapt to gameplay in 2-3 days. In two weeks it will become slightly easier (but not actually easy unless you slack).

And don't forget to start moving immediately after landing on grid in TCRC because if you will be stationary and attacked - when you'll pop before other logis will be able to lock you.

P.S. I guess you are in a basi. Scimitars do twice less work and aren't that exhaustive (no cap requests, less targets, faster switching).

You're kidding right? Don't you have like 5 or 6 threads you started in the missions and complexes forum about how you couldn't get into incursions (because you seemed to impatient to focus your training). Hell, wasn't' that you who got kicked out of TVP's channel for bitching and moaning too much? You were linking some seriously crap fits dude, then arguing

Now you finally do get in and you don't like it? I think the issue is you man, not the game content.

Former 10 man hc raid healer here. (no, I don't regret it)

If you are used to healing in WoW, then don't expect a challenge from flying logi in incursions. The only challenge is staying alert.

Imagine playing a druid and putting a HoT on one player every 20 to 30 seconds - if you are late by a few seconds he is going to die. That's about the pace things are happening at. (provided people broadcast when they are supposed to)
You don't even have to care about positioning in incursions, because you just hit orbit on the anchor and your ship is going to do the rest for you.

The big difference is the responsibility. If you make a mistake in WoW worst case your raid wipes and has to rep the gear for a couple of gold. In EvE a multi billion ISK ship will explode which will take most players at least several days to replace without SRP.

I have done logi, a lot, in Incursions.
Yes, HQ's can be stressful, especially if people think yelling they are getting shot is preferable to broadcasting when they are yellow-boxed.

The trick is 2 things:
1. Keep as few windows open as possible, and keep your overview as empty as possible. The only thing you need the overview for is to know if you are being targeted. You really should have no more than 4 windows up, and you keep the anchor locked at all times to know where you have to go if you miss a verbal command. The fleet broadcast window is the key, clearly, as a logi. I have found that in most fleets, the rats will end up focusing on a small subset of the fleet, over the long haul. If you keep seeing some pilot is being targeted more than others, make sure he is on your watch list. That also eases the strain.

2. Take a break every couple hours. For me, it a tightness in my upper back that is the signal.

that's what I'm doing.

Trouble is I'm flying with warp me to incursion (for some reason their the only lot that accept level 4 logi pilots off the bat) and they have a separate channel for basi pilots due to our cap chain requirements so you need a few more tabs open than normal.