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Teamspeak

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Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#21 - 2014-01-13 21:58:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyvim Slorm
Batelle wrote:


"Before teamspeak was common" refers to a period of time before TQ went live for the first time.


It wasn't common in 2003 early game, but by 2004 it had become popular (and essential) for the Alliances and larger corps
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#22 - 2014-01-13 22:25:53 UTC
Summer Isle wrote:
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


I hate Teamspeak, too. Voice chats in general. Makes it really hard to continue pretending I'm actually a girl to dupe desperate kids out of their ISK and other goodies. A little flirtatious text and a ~<3 or =^_^= in a text chat are much easier to work with.

At least EvE Voice makes it easier, and it isn't difficult to convince someone who wants to voice chat that you don't want to give out your TS account to a random person.


take it from me, once they find out you are a real girl things can get awkward with the weird silences, then the tentative flirts, the offers of phallus, marriage proposals and e-stalking. it's almost not even worth the isk donations

almost.

trust me, you fakers have it easier than you know.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#23 - 2014-01-13 22:55:51 UTC
Yeah, voice comms does a number on the RP factor. Admittedly, many of us aren't so big into that to begin with.

I've discovered that the people who refuse to jump on voice have a higher tendency towards troll behavior and can't be trusted as much. I think voice comms are a very good thing. EVE players have a way of forgetting that they're interacting with real people, and voice comms reminds us of that.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#24 - 2014-01-13 22:59:32 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Summer Isle wrote:
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


I hate Teamspeak, too. Voice chats in general. Makes it really hard to continue pretending I'm actually a girl to dupe desperate kids out of their ISK and other goodies. A little flirtatious text and a ~<3 or =^_^= in a text chat are much easier to work with.

At least EvE Voice makes it easier, and it isn't difficult to convince someone who wants to voice chat that you don't want to give out your TS account to a random person.


take it from me, once they find out you are a real girl things can get awkward with the weird silences, then the tentative flirts, the offers of phallus, marriage proposals and e-stalking. it's almost not even worth the isk donations

almost.

trust me, you fakers have it easier than you know.


I've often wished that more women played EVE. Then I see how they are treated on comms, and the male:female ratio suddenly makes sense.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#25 - 2014-01-13 23:22:50 UTC
Talkin... who needs it.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-01-13 23:34:23 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


This is a pretty valid point, after all we all remember when neil aldrin jumped off of the moon lander, opened up IRC on his laptop and typed "one small step for man something something who cares" and i hear that the iraq war is being co-ordinated entirely thru txt messages makes u think
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#27 - 2014-01-13 23:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Use Eve voice for a month.

Don't worry, teamspeak will be there for you when you come crawling back.


Having used Eve Voice extensively for small gangs (mainly in FW) I do not understand the hate. Sure it doesn't cut the mustard for fcukhueg alliances that need 24/7 communication even when the nodes crash, but it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be for relatively small corporations/fleets. Relatively small here meaning around at least 50 people. I remember the in-game voice chat working adequately even though the reinforced(!) node was creaking under a fairly unusual 600 or so people in the system, of which around 120 of was in our fleet (This happened in 2009, Kamela, a lowsec system if you're wondering why 600 people was unusually high number).
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#28 - 2014-01-13 23:42:52 UTC
Summer Isle wrote:
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


I hate Teamspeak, too. Voice chats in general. Makes it really hard to continue pretending I'm actually a girl to dupe desperate kids out of their ISK and other goodies. A little flirtatious text and a ~<3 or =^_^= in a text chat are much easier to work with.

At least EvE Voice makes it easier, and it isn't difficult to convince someone who wants to voice chat that you don't want to give out your TS account to a random person.


Eve voice comes with very convincing voice fonts that will greatly assist you with your scamming.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#29 - 2014-01-13 23:52:10 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Yeah, voice comms does a number on the RP factor. Admittedly, many of us aren't so big into that to begin with.

I've discovered that the people who refuse to jump on voice have a higher tendency towards troll behavior and can't be trusted as much. I think voice comms are a very good thing. EVE players have a way of forgetting that they're interacting with real people, and voice comms reminds us of that.


I like voice chat too, whether that's ts or eve voice. I don't see it as immersion breaking either as I am speaking to people that I fly with who identify themselves on ts with the same name as their eve character. I fly with an international crowd, lots of different accents, makes for good characterisations. It feels like new eden to me.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#30 - 2014-01-13 23:53:23 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:
Yeah, voice comms does a number on the RP factor. Admittedly, many of us aren't so big into that to begin with.

I've discovered that the people who refuse to jump on voice have a higher tendency towards troll behavior and can't be trusted as much. I think voice comms are a very good thing. EVE players have a way of forgetting that they're interacting with real people, and voice comms reminds us of that.


I like voice chat too, whether that's ts or eve voice. I don't see it as immersion breaking either as I am speaking to people that I fly with who identify themselves on ts with the same name as their eve character. I fly with an international crowd, lots of different accents, makes for good characterisations. It feels like new eden to me.


Yeah, I go by "Carmen" on voice. Doesn't bother me.
Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#31 - 2014-01-13 23:58:42 UTC
Why would voice communication break immersion?

You don't think spaceship pilots would relay orders verbally?
Hi.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2014-01-14 00:00:41 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Why would voice communication break immersion?

You don't think spaceship pilots would relay orders verbally?


It's more about that hot lady-toon sounding like an orc from the depths of Mordor IRL.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#33 - 2014-01-14 00:05:43 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:


trust me, you fakers have it easier than you know.


There's a couple "real" girls in our alliance - not me of course I'm a 40-odd year old crossdresser - and I don't think they get any special treatment. Yeah we'll get the odd noob who will be trying to hit on them the first day or so, but our comms are quite lively with zero awkward silences.

I think a lot of it has to do with both the maturity of the corp members, the respect for the other person as a gamer - one of our girls is a seriously pro pvp pilot - and also very much the attitude of the female in question. Yes our comms can get rather crude and primitive and perverted at times, and most of the time she's the one that started it :)
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-01-14 00:16:22 UTC
I only get on voice coms for fleet actions. Otherwise they seem to be just general b.s. and offensive jokes. I play ze video games to get away from reality, not to hear about Obama, or the ebil Republicans, or how many rugbies the local cricket team knocked into the goalie for 10 knickers or whatever. And I definitely, absolutely, do not need to know who had sex with my mother last night.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#35 - 2014-01-14 00:29:18 UTC
Skywalker wrote:
Before teamspeak was common, people actually typed ingame, and it's still doable, but ofc not as good.
I guess it depends abit on how well oiled the gang is and if they know what to do.
I saw some alliance recruiting a while ago, they where non-teamspeak, can't recall the name.


Teamspeak was always common in all my corps even from 2004, how far back are we talking :P
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#36 - 2014-01-14 00:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Eurydia Vespasian
Ptraci wrote:
I think a lot of it has to do with both the maturity of the corp members, the respect for the other person as a gamer


I agree.

and I don't mean to blanket all TS males as displaying the sort of behavior I described lol. that is certainly not the case. many channels I've visited in my time have been rather nice. some not so much. it totally depends on the crowd participating at the time Blink

Cypherous wrote:
Skywalker wrote:
Before teamspeak was common, people actually typed ingame, and it's still doable, but ofc not as good.
I guess it depends abit on how well oiled the gang is and if they know what to do.
I saw some alliance recruiting a while ago, they where non-teamspeak, can't recall the name.


Teamspeak was always common in all my corps even from 2004, how far back are we talking :P


the original team fortress classic

*medpacks you half to death and watches you run to the spawn and infect your whole team*

good times.
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#37 - 2014-01-14 00:40:10 UTC
Teamspeak, immersion breaker?? Don't think so, as stated already if you were in a fleet fight and the FC was giving out orders in text chat, you'd be dead before you knew what hit you. That is why Teamspeak is usually required by many corps and fleets and believe me it can save your arse knowing by voice what to do even faster.

Sure, there may be some idle chatter about almost everything imaginable but there are some limits in place, such as discussions involving politics and religion, two really big no nos in my book. Anyway, TS is not in no way an immersion breaker and I hate to see what other excuse that comes out from this.

FLY RECKLESS!!Pirate
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-01-14 00:54:36 UTC
Oh yes, I really hate it when I miss "warp drive active" .

This is a mmo. Communicating in order to get the job done is part of the "immersion".
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-01-14 01:23:48 UTC
Everyone knows in the year 2853 there is no such thing as a radio. All spaceships communicate through smoke signals which is why they have chimneys.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-01-14 01:42:31 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


Beats the Hell out of EVE voice, mutter-mumble, Raid Call and so on. Sure, matter of preference -- but unless you're a scout in Fleet, then all you really have to do 99% of the time is LISTEN... Blink

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