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doing incursions - feeling drained

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Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-13 22:34:09 UTC
I've finally got into an incursion fleet (no I haven't lost any ships yet) and after a few hours work at logi in HQ sites I'm feeling physically trained.

Incursion is also the point at which EVE really does become excel as I have to have so many tabs open to keep track of things.


Does anyone else get this when their playing incursions or any other large fleet based combat? And does anyone have any tips for dealing with it.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-01-13 22:35:52 UTC
Poor you.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
GreenSeed
#3 - 2014-01-13 22:42:12 UTC
do you work at your job? i mean, actually complete time sensitive tasks with limited resources in return for monetary compensation?

if you do, then its no different than dealing with irl stress. not to mention its a game, so you can walk out of it anytime you want.

now, if you don't have a stressful job, then consider eve as a small preview of what a "real" job is like, and consider yourself lucky.
Vira'li
A Place in Time and Space
#4 - 2014-01-13 22:47:41 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
do you work at your job? i mean, actually complete time sensitive tasks with limited resources in return for monetary compensation?

if you do, then its no different than dealing with irl stress. not to mention its a game, so you can walk out of it anytime you want.

now, if you don't have a stressful job, then consider eve as a small preview of what a "real" job is like, and consider yourself lucky.



We have a winner! Big smile
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-01-13 22:49:52 UTC
Step away from computer? Go nap?

Bacon makes us stronger
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2014-01-13 22:51:51 UTC
Do what I do.

Revitalize by killing a miner.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-13 22:52:32 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Step away from computer? Go nap?


well that's what I do but I don't know how any of the capital null sec players can cope in the day long slugging matches
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-01-13 22:58:06 UTC
Vira'li wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
do you work at your job? i mean, actually complete time sensitive tasks with limited resources in return for monetary compensation?

if you do, then its no different than dealing with irl stress. not to mention its a game, so you can walk out of it anytime you want.

now, if you don't have a stressful job, then consider eve as a small preview of what a "real" job is like, and consider yourself lucky.

We have a winner! Big smile

No we don't, this is a legitimately terrible post and I feel sorry for its author.

Dodixie > Hek
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2014-01-13 23:03:11 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:
Step away from computer? Go nap?


well that's what I do but I don't know how any of the capital null sec players can cope in the day long slugging matches


Yeah, EVE is kind of a game for people who enjoy pain. Hard to argue with that.

Usually after playing something else like Deus Ex: HR for 5 minutes I think "Why do I play that other game? Oh yeah, because I'm a masochist. And addicted."

Bacon makes us stronger
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-01-13 23:22:53 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:
Step away from computer? Go nap?


well that's what I do but I don't know how any of the capital null sec players can cope in the day long slugging matches


Assign drones, alt tab battlefield 4.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-01-13 23:24:17 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Vira'li wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
do you work at your job? i mean, actually complete time sensitive tasks with limited resources in return for monetary compensation?

if you do, then its no different than dealing with irl stress. not to mention its a game, so you can walk out of it anytime you want.

now, if you don't have a stressful job, then consider eve as a small preview of what a "real" job is like, and consider yourself lucky.

We have a winner! Big smile

No we don't, this is a legitimately terrible post and I feel sorry for its author.

It's not as bad as the op.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#12 - 2014-01-13 23:50:46 UTC
Learn to fly DPS, Press F1, late BC, laugh because Logi drain themselves saving you repeatedly and quit and new logi join, and make your money. Seems to be how it goes.

Also, Null Sec slug fests are a much slower pace. TiDi for a start. And Capital Logi are slower to begin with also. So think 20 times or so slower for a Null Sec cap fleet clash. Plenty of time to grab food or take a bio between pressing buttons.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#13 - 2014-01-14 00:19:06 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Do what I do.

Revitalize by killing a miner.


Really? z-killboard shows 28 kills and 35 losses and not a single mining ship anywhere to be seen.

Of course, there's always the 'it's on an alt' response, but I just smell a bit of BS tbh.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#14 - 2014-01-14 01:39:55 UTC
tip

would be that organized ppl do incursions more easy and without turbulence for most part.

you being present is not enough all of a team need to be.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-01-14 01:42:48 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
tip

would be that organized ppl do incursions more easy and without turbulence for most part.

you being present is not enough all of a team need to be.

Actually, the organised groups tend to turn logi over at about the rate he said. Because Logi quite frankly is a fairly demanding job in an incursion. Especially since the DPS pilots often run for ages, get tired and get crappy with their broadcasts. Making logi's lives even harder. So Logi burn out far faster than the DPS pilots.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-01-14 01:44:28 UTC
... operators are standing by to share your burden and take your stuff ...

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#17 - 2014-01-14 01:57:51 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
tip

would be that organized ppl do incursions more easy and without turbulence for most part.

you being present is not enough all of a team need to be.

Actually, the organised groups tend to turn logi over at about the rate he said. Because Logi quite frankly is a fairly demanding job in an incursion. Especially since the DPS pilots often run for ages, get tired and get crappy with their broadcasts. Making logi's lives even harder. So Logi burn out far faster than the DPS pilots.


I don't argue logi vs dps what i meant it that in bad fleet where slacking is allowed or not noticed you as a logi will have hard time compared to fleet where that kinda behavior is less often.

doing it right and doing it wrong simply cant yield in same result.

i don't see ppl sobbing over being logi and no one is making em go on for hours and hours and yet they are back again for more of it.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#18 - 2014-01-14 03:12:48 UTC
They can end in the same result. It will just take longer in a better fleet.
He was asking about A: Do others experience it. Most certainly. & B: How to deal with it. Water & Food at your computer help. As does the FC calling 5 min breaks every so often. But at the end of the day, you have to break when you need it.
Metamonic
Bubbles Bubbles Bubbles
#19 - 2014-01-14 08:12:38 UTC
Came to hear what logi in incurions is really like as I am training for it with a sense of seriousness that comes with preparing for server first kills on new raid content in WoW.

If anyone can compare, I would love to hear what it is like to play as logi in a 2/10 in Vanguard or in a logi-group stretched thin doing Assault/HQ in the eyes of someone who played a healer in WoW doing the harder content (10 man Hard Modes). I would like to know:

- How much do you need to prepare before each session?
- Is it acceptable to lose people?
- Is it normal to die yourself often?
- How much effort goes into positioning?
- How essential is reaction time?
- Is damage anticipation important or can you rely on broadcasts alone?
- What kind of alertness and awareness is needed?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#20 - 2014-01-14 08:51:35 UTC
Talking about HQ's

Preparing is minimal. Nanite paste, correct scripts, correct fits. But only one of those gets consumed.
Loosing people isn't normal, but if someone is an idiot it happens. Very rare to loose someone who didn't screw up.
Mom sites you can loose Logi to certain waves. TCRC's with high influence very rarely also can get a logi alpha'ed.
Positioning is relatively easy the way most fleets do it.
Reaction time is critical, since DPS often only broadcast when they start getting shot. So every second counts
Damage Awareness is important, you have to use visuals as well as BC's as again, people are often late.
Alertness & Awareness for logi again critical.

Saying that. If someone does BC late or doesn't BC, you won't get yelled at too much if they explode as long as you were paying attention and locked everyone who did BC.
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