EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi all !

Let me start by saying I only started a little over a month ago in EvE. and I have been loving this game so much its like the perfect
alter ego that you can play at your leisure .

things I totally dig about EvE :

- Skill Queue I get to progress while i do work in RL and be able to pay my bills !
- seemingly endless options from day 1 to do what evah Da Fuq I wants
- all these cool SHIPS !!!!
- massive game with long standing history
- ONE giant server so you can play with everyone.. and at the same time avoid them too if you just wanna lurk /listen in
- graphically/ visually its freakin BEAUTIFUL ! ( eve seems to age beautifully with the times .. i with Eerquest 1 was like this )

ok.. now that I got all that lovely gooey stuff off my chest..

time for this newbie pilot to ask questions I can get answers from and maybe meet new friends ?

1. I am considering FW or RVB .... i understand abit about FW from reading the EvE uni info.. but I don't know if i want organized military life in EvE.. ( I was in the USMC as a scout/rifleman.. that uniform is done ! )
Can someone here tell me what the RED ten is about and the BLUE team ? i read tier site. its basically one corp split into 2 teams for fun .. PvP anywhere ?

2. I have grown to love exploration more tun doing missions.. altho i do enjoy doing a mission here and there is it wrong to try to fit one ship that does scanning for combat sites,relic,data all in one ? I del the scanning skills will help me with scanning down enemies as well as sites when i do make the jump to FW or RVB.
I have not gone out to null space yet.. but i have survived just running thru low sec space to pick up a cheap book or module .

3. I live in a small apartment with my Girlfriend and dog. so personal space and quiet is our best friend.. a girlfriend who lets me play a video game for 2 hours a night after i get home is frelling awesome !!!!!!!
but the downside is.. i may never be ble to yell and talk/laugh on a mic or headset will this hurt my chances of being in a corps ?

limited playtime and going "radio silent" i mean ?

this is my main so please feel fee to introduce yourselves to me if you se me in-game !
I wish I had time for making alts. but i work from 7am to 7pm everyday making / painting assets for a game.. some of you may have played it.. Call of Duty ? ( i have never played it.. i only paint and make pretty pictures for the game )

4. will anyone frown upon me if i prefer to stick to only frigates and T1 cruisers ? i just don't think i really want to pilot those huge ships.. i like the speed and look of buzzing about trying' to survive against terrible odds and playing David vs. Goliath ( i've lots 4 destroyers , 2 cruisers , 6 frigates so far trying to fight in places i should have asked for help in.
I learned DED 4 is no place for a destroyer...
VIGIL and Watch sites can eat my stabber in a short while if i let them swarm me
some level 2 missions like RECON make me feel like i've just run a 3 mile sprint


5. how or where do i se my player info online when i'm not in-game ? like who killed me.. etc.etc.
I only have Neocom on my iPhone to help me plan skills.. is thee anything else i should use ?

thanks in advance all and i'm looking forward to your feedback !

2. If you like scanning and combat, you can try the combat anomalies. But you'll probably need the bigger ships to run them and have a good return. Scanning down ships is a completly different matter, as that takes a specific probe launcher that uses 10 times more CPU than what a normal launcher would use, so it's almost impossible to fit in a ship not designed for it

4. No one will frown upon you for this choice. However, if you like the david x goliath feeling, you should look for stealth bombers. But it's more like a swarm of tiny davids raping a goliath as fast as possible.

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thanks so much for your replies!

it would be fun to be a tackle frigate .. or once i can afford an interceptor and the proper skills for piloting one..
yep i could just be a mute player .. no problem listening to orders/commands tho.. did that for 6yrs.. lol !

so specializing ships is the way to go preferably , i see the total logic in that. but i having limited play time don't want to be flying an exploration frigate only to scan down a site.. then fly back how many jumps to grab the appropriate ship to fight or hack in.
I can keep trying fits in different ships i guess .

so a new question has popped up for me then.

say i only fit an expanded core probe launcher.. so i can carry both combat probes and scan probes.
y'know, so i can hunt down targets of both the PvP and PvE variety i.e. sites and player targets

is this viable in a T1 frigate ? i know a T2 would probably be better.. but I am not that willing to spend /lose that kinda ISK.. lol

any recommended ships ?
I can fly all frigates so far.. well T1 frigates of minmatar, Gallente , Amarr & Caldari I have up to skill 3.. as for ship fitting skills.. i have all but one skill to go for mastery 3 ? ( i can fit T2 support modules like gyro stabilizers, ballistic control, shield and armor repair ) i have to look at my skills agin in game to make sure.

but for cruisers i can only fly Minmatar cruiser 3 . and i'm slowly getting the weapons to catch up

Not of the top of my head, though I know it's a pain to put it in just about any ship. Takes up a lot CPU which often leaves you wanting in other parts of your fit. However, it's quite easy for you to find out. I highly recommend you download EFT or Pyfa (external ship fitting tools). These programs allow you to test out different fits and see exactly what you can and can't fit on a ship without having to actually buy the mods with ISK. You can even load your character's API key to see the actual stats you will get while flying the ship, like DPS, tank, speed etc. It's also a great way to see which skills affect your ship and by how much.

I would not recommend bombers for a new player. They are extremely inflexible. They're great at what they do, but they require a gang and specialized tactics. There are many, many situations where a bomber is extremely impractical and if that's the only thing you can fly properly you're going to be very limited in what you can do.


That said - as a general rule, staying with frigs and cruisers is a fine idea. I've been playing since 2007 and fly frigates almost exclusively.

Just to add up, you can do the same with the Neocom app you said you have. Browse the frigates and look up their bonuses, so you can have a good idea on their role.

There are two types of scanning, and you probably won't be able to fit the expanded probe launcher on T1 frigs.
To scan signatures you should look up the exploration frigates (Heron, Probe, Imicus and Magnate).
To scan ships you can look up their T2 counterparts

Keep in mind that scanning ships is normally a role on it's on in a fleet. You'll only be scanning and combating if you can change your ships.
Scanning signatures on the other hand is doable with ships that are not specifically made for that, but like I mentioned before you'll need bigger ships to make it worth running those sites. A good rule of thumb is that for PvE, the bigger your ship is, the better is the income. You can always run the anomalies too, which are the sites that show up on your scanner without the need to scan them down.

I'd recommend you set strategic cruisers as your long term goal, as they are good for PvE while still in the Cruisers size. Just keep in mind to focus on one or two races at most, as each of them has bonuses for different weapon systems and crosstraining that would take a long time.

1. FW isn't USMC style military style. It's a game after all. Sure during fleet combats, there is a chain of command to make the fleet more efficient (aka scouts/FC/etc talk during battle).

RvB...2 corps, 1 war. They are a community that exist for 1 reason: target rich waters to shoot others. Basically, with limited rules, PvP everywhere except Jita.

2. There aren't really "all-in-one" ships in EVE. You can build one to do multiple things, but it will be a lot less efficient at any of those things compared to using a ship that fits for the duty. See ships as tools, they all have a specific duty in which they shine. You can try to hammer in a screw, it's possible, but it's more efficient to use a screwdriver in that case.

3. Yes and No. Let's just say, not having a mic (or the ability to speak) isn't going to be a very big problem, unless you are in a position where you need to talk (being a scout or Fleet Commander in a fleet for instance), but the majority of the time listening is just good enough.

The no part...well, if you are in a corporation that is highly active on comms, you might feel a bit left out. Because in such cases corp-chat isn't very active as people are speaking to each other. This can easily be overcome though, eventually people (if you are in a good corp) will understand you can't speak and will just read your chat. I've got to know a fair bit of people that don't want / can't speak on comms for their own personal reasons, to which all I can say, people I know also respected those exact same reasons.

EDIT - Because I totally forgot to count to more then 3:

4. Again, mixed answers possible. Sure there are plenty of corporations that don't mind you sticking to small ships like frigates, destroyers or cruisers. There are even corps that don't fly anything bigger then frigates.

On the other side of the coin, there are alliances that fly strict doctrines. This means that if you are part of the alliance, they expect you to train and fly what they require their people to fly.

5.

For kills/losses out of game:
www.eve-kill.net
www.zkillboard.com

For stuff like training monitors, skill planning, fitting testing etc:

* EVEMON
* EFT
* EVEHQ
* AURA (for Android)

1: There's no difference in what Red and Blue stand for.

Also, check out Brave Newbies.



2: Exploration has two main categories of sites. Hacking type sites which are best done in a cloaked non-combat ship, and combat ones which are best done in agile combat ships such as tech 2 cruisers.



3: I second what has been said already - you can't scout and can't FC without voice comms but can do almost everything else. In small gangs having no outgoing voice is more of an issue but in large fleets it is fine.



4: I do not like flying larger ships myself. Tech 1 cruisers for risky things, tech 2 cruisers for less risky things. Works just fine for me. T1 frigates do indeed have a role as light disposable tackle, but while low SP pilots can do that well, it actually requires some fairly advanced player skill to survive approaching larger ships.

In the future, if you like flying tackle, you can train into Interceptors, Interdictors and Heavy Interdiction Cruisers. All of these ships are very desired in fleets, and in particular flying a Heavy Interdiction Cruiser puts you in an excellent position to strategically backstab your 'friends' and get titans killed.

1. I recommend FW over RvB. RvB has too many rules, where you can and cannot fight and no EWAR. Not so much can and cannot but that you cant access Jita. No EWAR makes combat unrealistic compared to the normal combat in the game. They could make more can and cannot rules for that, or where and where not, but it's just all cannot. They do other stuff together though, more regular player corp like. If you are trying to avoid rules or ranks or whatever, RvB might not be for you. FW is a system mechanic, so open to your own interpretation of how to go about it. All it does is reward you for shooting at the right targets, yet doesn't restrain you from doing pretty much whatever you want. You will find all types of corps involved in FW.

2. err they have changed exploration a lot recently. I wish they hadn't. No you really cant fit a ship to do it all any longer, as it used to be. In fact if you do it with a frigate (e.g. T1 Heron or T2 Buzzard), you are so overloaded with this new junk you become an unarmed and undefended sitting duck. I think it breaks with the design of EVE in general. The new lead dev used to play this game as a Pirate, so I can only guess this his idea of throwing a carrot to his old buddies, to give them more easy targets to be less bored.

But yes, still playable (though I do it less now), you can set a waypoint to the combat site and switch to a combat ship. You can still fit a regular combat cruiser with a probe and go in with some fair probing skills. To do the harder DED sites you may need friends. Doing radar sites and such can still be profitable as well.

3. That's not what GF's are for...

4. Fur the first few months, np. Whatever anyone else will or will not think, you will most likely change your mind and go with T2, T3 or even train battleships at some point. But as far as PvP, frigs are the most common. T1 cruisers are common as well due to their low replacement value especially insured. If running missions/plexes, you'll eventually want to move to something with more DPS or such.

5. evemon & EFT for PC. Some apps for ipad, but don't know since I use an N7 and apps for that (e.g. Aura). There are webpage killboards other than that. You can find a list of apps in ISK the Guide, free 1000p PDF download.

Well, I now have to reply to it.

First, the no ECM module rule is in place for a reason...there is no fun in being blown up while perma jammed all the time.
True, it ain't a good comparison with the rest of PvP in EVE, but neither is FW (or does every bit of PvP in EVE requires you to carry 3 scrams because everything is warp stabbed to the max???)

As for where you can and can't fight....that's simple:

Can't: Jita
Can: Look at system name, does it say anything but Jita....your fine.


And RvB doesn't have a real rank system. The rules are there to provide everybody with as much fun fights as possible. The ranks they have...well unless you want to do special stuff like recruiting, being team leader etc. they are optional.