Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No one expects the double post!

I'm intrigued by the idea, especially to see destroyers in roles other than attack (it IS a destroyer, right?). But I cannot endorse such a specific role. You never know what sort of electronic warfare your opponent willl bring to the field. I think the answer to electronic warfare is to have modules that fight back against it but that have other effects for when they aren't needed. It should be easier and more viable in non-EWAR situations to fit modules that protect against EWAR.

We already have sensor boosters/amplifiers which protect somewhat against sensor dampeners, and tracking computers/enhancers which protect somewhat against tracking disruptors. The ECCM modules don't have any purpose without ECM being used against you, which helps give ECM more of an advantage over other EWAR. These days, people expect ECM more than other EWAR types, but with the recent buffs to other EWAR, they are seeing more use again.

I'd like to see ECCM integrated with other sensor-boosting modules somehow. Perhaps instead of having very strong ECCM effects, there would be a script for sensor boosters which would cause them to grant less targeting range and scan resolution bonus but also some sensor strength bonus. Maybe the sensor booster would already grant a small sensor strength bonus and would have a script to enhance it. Another way to approach this would be to make a general EWAR-defense module with defense against tracking disruption, sensor dampening, and ECM, with scripts to focus on any one of these.

As for operations-style destroyers, I'd like to see a tech 1 version of the interdictor without an interdiction sphere launcher but with bonuses to tank and tackling. With 6 weapon slots, a weapon bonus, a tank bonus, and a healthy number of mid slots, this ship could find itself a good fit as a tackler, using its higher powergrid to fit tank to help make up for its larger sig radius and slower movement. It would be able to tackle harder than a frigate and could fight off smaller targets directly with its own weapons. It could also fit some EWAR modules into its extra mid slots just to be even more fearsome.

I'm also in favor of a tech 2 destroyer other than the interdictor. Perhaps a specialized disruption-defense type ship with racial bonuses to defense against its own race's EWAR (Minmatar can instead have more weapons bonus) but a specialized high-slot module that is effective for defense against all 3 disruption-style EWAR effects and can be focused for a specific type of EWAR on the fly.

Bouncers love ECM cruisers

A nice and innovative idea, except its quite flawed:

Why would a ecm boat actually target a ferret, its a destroyer, specificly designed to hurt the ecm, as an ecm pilot with the mechanics you describe, i would just ignore it, and let the dps take it out.

If what i'm thinking your suggesting and it would work regardless of it beeing used, then how does this work exactly, eg what if the enemy force has 3 falcons, does it pick one at random, does it get multiplied by each ecm the falcons uses, or just the one its targeting? how does it distinguis from hostile to friendly ecm? How do you prevent it to be an instant blab everything wielding your fleets counter?

Say your a long ranged high strength fleet setup, where really the most annoying thing would be remote sensor damp. you bring a squad of the remote sensor damp ferrets, but also load everyone of your fleet with one remote sensor damp. They actually bring the thing you hate, damps, so your ferrets load up the short range ammo, warp in, and your friendly fleet all activate there remote sensor damps, increasing your ferret squads dps by many many times, capable of blapping everything of the other fleets remote sensor dampeners instantaneously.

Its an innovative idea, but this version won't work i think.

Slight adjustment:

Ferret module: Scriptable high slot, Groupable with any drone and mid or high slot module

You script the ferret module with either a target painting, ECM, Remote Sensor Dampening, or Webbing script. Next you group modules with it, EG Neutralizers, then when someone uses that type of ewar on you you press the ferret module, wich then, if allowed tries to lock the target, and uses, or prepares to use the modules linked to it to be used.

It's probably already been said, but your post was so long so I didn't read it or any replies, but what you're looking for is called ECCM, Electronic counter counter measure.

New ships is why the Drake. We need to fix of the EWAR.

Chemal Tech used to be at the forefront of Gallente Electronic Warfare. I'd wager they know a thing or two about it and may be looking for an opportunity to bring their company back into the top money. Maybe they came up with a revolutionary defense against Caldari Electronic Warfare.