Missions & Complexes

First of all, thanks a million for this thread Goldiiee, very informative and helpful! I'm definitely going to be signing into most of those chat channels in future! My question is, you've recommended BS with T2 guns for the starter player, I myself am new but I'm currently training for a T2 Fitted Phantasm. Is this "viable" as such? Am I harming my chances of being picked up by FCs because I'm using a Pirate cruiser rather than a BS or faction/pirate BS.


EDIT: I've been told this website is massively out of date, could anyone advise on what I should do from here? http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=fit&id=64


Fit, for reference.

Take care!

Shady Fleet uses cruisers, then again they do it for mobility and keeping the cost low so pvp is not a problem during low sec Incs. However they are mostly looking for people that can fly this hulls very good and also got a lot of SP in them, so T2 fitting, Cruiser 5, good support skills.

From my experience, having FCed and did logi with a few people and hulls(including rather light tanked Thorax, Brutix, Harbinger etc.) from shady fleet during amarr Island Incs you have to be a bit more on the ball with your logi(expect 50%+ of the armor do disappear by alpha on agro switches).

For High Sec stuff, except for the legion(anti frig) or loki(long range webs) they are rather rare and from my experience even for the split sites in Assaults, tier 3 BCs plus a loki or legion, providing webs are the better option. That doesn't mean it is impossible, it is just simply not the fastest and most efficient way to do it. For the Island Incs we normally used a lot of T3 and T2 cruisers, often paired with tier 3 BCs, like the Oracle or Talos for the extra punch and/or range, simply because transporting this hulls through low sec is a lot easier since they fit in a tanked mwd+cloak hauler, blockade runner or can be refitted with cov ops cloak for travel. This becomes very important when you not only move hulls you fly but also build a stash of all kind of ships so you work with any kind of pilot you will find out there, having a hull that he can use ready to go(also they do bind quite a lot less capital if you just buy and fit them for this purpose).

The nex soft fittings are from the early days and sport a lot of tank that isn't really needed in good organized gangs this days, your best bet is to look for mailing lists, websites or ask in the respective channels what kind of fitting they are looking for. A Phantasm might not be your best bet, since a T3 cruiser, logistic cruiser, T1, faction or Pirate BS is far more desirable(more range, dps, buffer). If you want to keep it with lasers, I would aim for a Apoc/navy Apoc if you go BS first(and pick up a NM once you got the cash and skills up), focus on the Legion if you want to stick with the laser cruiser theme(however they are mostly used in armor gangs) or get caldari cruiser 5 first and start off with a Basilisk logistic cruiser.

Currently your skills are low enough that you can make any decision you want and not really lose any major time. So here are some things to help you decide what you want. With no large turrets trained you can start and finish any of the large turret in about the same amount of time from where you are now.

Machariel; No real heavy cap skills needed, but T2 guns can feel like they take forever to train (Might not be too bad now but they used to be really long train) Nimble ship but doesn't really move much in incursions. Slow Cycle time means you have time to look around and see what's going on, which is why I recommend it for the FC role. Low Ammo cost with artillery and moderate to high cost with auto-cannons. The cap skills you didn't need for this ship come in handy when you want to move it fast as a MWD burns cap really fast and an AB is only marginally better so in the end you will still need those cap skills. I personally fly this but also have the skills and have on many occasions flown the next two as well.

Nightmare; Really heavy cap skills since the Lasers are totally dependent on your available Cap, it usually needs a buddy to share cap, so flying with two works better than flying alone (as a team you feed cap to a buddy and he feeds cap back to you and that effectively makes cap out of thin air keeping you full to fire, run your MWD or whatever else you like). Slow alignment time and a bit of a brick moving around in, but enough mid slots to make them extremely useful in any situation. Very Low ammo cost (Crystals take very little room and break once a night running hard and less running casual). Target painters and Webs can really help out on this ship.

Vindicator; Partially dependent on cap so you will need those skills, excellent short range so you spend a lot of time actually flying it, really small buffer for shield so it gets a little exciting sometimes, cost more to tank safely than any other Incursion boat. But this ship is a fleet 'must have'. When flown right they can do twice the damage of any other Pirate faction BS. Very high ammo cost, this goes through ammo at a phenomenal rate spending about 4,000 ISK every 5 seconds, but getting up to 2000DPS is a reward all in its own. Expending ammo at that rate is hard on Cap, so poor cap skills will leave you frustrated in this ship. Oh yeah need to train Stasis webifier and drones with this ship to help out as much as possible.

In the end the choice is yours, but my advice; don't train to avoid a nerf, CCP-Fozzie will eventually get around to castrating any ship you love, you get used to it and keep on flying, what is crap today will be great tomorrow, and what's great will become crap. think of it like a giant wheel and it keeps coming around.

One last point about the 'Upcoming Nerf' it's never (Fingers crossed) is so bad that you throw a ship away, you usually just change how you fit it or use it.

Does anyone know what happend to Lv6?

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I am not aware of a strictly French speaking community, but most of the EU groups have several languages on comms but an agreed language for commands and emergencies.

This site is a little dated but still good to get the basics of fits.
http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=dps
Most Groups have fitting mailing lists or sites designed to make it easy, like;
http://www.eve-isn.com/#fittings
http://www.tdf-theditanianfleet.org/
and
http://www.thevalhallaproject.net/

If you ask in any of the chat channels listed in the OP there will always be someone willing to help get you started in the right direction. But of course this is EVE, and there will always be the troll willing to prove me wrong, but for the most part you should have plenty of players willing to help get you started.

Shop around several channels before making changes to your fit, as you might find the group you want to fly with due to timezones, and convenience will probably have a different rig requirement than another group.

Forsaken Su-un created new site for TVP - there is some useful information and fits. Could be wonderful to see this link in the top post. Thanks, Goldiiee!

Bump for access.

Check your journal. This will be accurate unless there has been a round of mompoppery in the last hour or so.

Mossas, Is the only High sec up right now. but Patch-day is also affectionately know as Bug-day so I don't know if anyone is seriously running it.

BTW; 21j from Amarr give or take.