Missions & Complexes

You are agree that that gankers make obscene amount of isk very easy with zero risk? That need to be fixed, every player with low skills who get enough friends in destroyers can make a lot of money killing faction ships, or just enjoy killing at low cost a lot of expensive mining barges.

Yeah, I agree. It really is a shame.

Within the past couple of years this game has progressively been skewed to favor suicide gankers and griefers. Probably the best course of action is to hire the services of Merc Corporations.

Anyway, welcome to G̶r̶i̶e̶f̶ ̶O̶n̶l̶i̶n̶e̶ Eve Online.





DMC

Mojo Joo
Yes gankers make an obscene amount of ISK off the laziness' of mission runners, and I would love to have a system that prevented 1 million ISK from killing 1 billion ISK, or 1 mil SP from killing 50mil SP, but that's not the game we have. So let's work on being prepared rather than indignant.

Or let me try a different approach, as a LVL-4 mission runner you are near the top of the food chain of juicy floating targets, with the exception of Incursion runners (They beat out most mission runners by a few billion any day of the week). In high-sec if you are juicy and good with Chips then you need to be selective of who you fly with (As in who's in Local) and extremely anal about your safety.

Yes Sisters of Eve LP is a great investment but if it is going to cost you a 5 billion ISK ship once a week then it's a bad investment. High traffic mission hubs are full of lazy people trying to capitalize on your time and investments, as DMC stated it's more Greif-Online than EVE-Online and the only way to win is to deny them the satisfaction. As a group, mission runners should be taking all measures to prevent Ganks, and if successful that would stop these leeches and send them to find a new way to play Lazy-Online. Remember they are doing it to make a profit if they lose more often than they win, they go away.

I can think of a dozen agents in .5 systems with no low sec in 4 jumps that provide missions, most of the time I run in them I am the only one in station, and only one of 3 or 4 in system. If the population goes up check killboards for names, and plan on moving. If you have been missioning in the same system for a week you have probably been scanned, and a decision has been made as to your value as a target. Don't stay there, move to a new system and run for another week. Break up you habit's of mission with cosmos, epic arcs, Incursions, exploration or a quick roam through low and Nul in the new Interceptors (This has the added benefit of generating gate camper tears). All of this and I am still able to net a few hundred mil every couple hours doing missions, not including LP, and 4 to 5 billion a week in general.

So move to a place where you know most of the locals and make your 360 degree warp outs, or don't fly shiny till you have made them.

BTW; 360 warpouts are easy just BM every mission you go to, hit f-11 (Guessing, I made a hot key long ago and don't remember the default) you will see a map of the system and the BM's you have made, the direction your ship is facing shows as a cone (Or the direction your camera is facing), use the BM directly in front of you to Get out of dodge any time you feel threatened. I remember the Bookmarks by naming them to hours on a clock, simple systems/procedures like this are hard to beat and will save your ass. Yes it might mean you have to warp back and do more work but a 2 minute warp is always cheaper than a mission ship. And every time you prevent a gank you are making them more frustrated than you, and hopefully filling the roles of the goon nul-sec suicide squads.

7.5 standings with all Empire Factions ??????

Gotta say I'd like to know how you managed that, especially since I'm currently hovering around +7.00 to the 4 main Empire Factions with all other Empire Factions trailing down below from +5.00 to +2.00 Faction standing.

As for not getting ganked in this game, that's easier said than done. If someone wants you ganked, eventually you're gonna get ganked, no way around that. I've played this game for over 5 1/2 years and have had 13 suicide gank attempts on my ship.

The 13th attempt was successful, a paid assassination. 1/2 dozen Mercs in Battleships hot dropped on my exploration fit T3 while I was multitasking at a Radar site in 0.7 security system. I was sitting still hacking cans, fighting NPC's and scanning down other signatures all at the same time. Basically the Merc's caught me with my pants down, IE, exploration fit up, active tank off while busy with other things.

Anyway, they released Combat Drones when they landed which filled up my overview and due to being surprised, I ended up fumbling with the screen and my overview trying to find a celestial or station to warp to. Of course when Concord showed up, low and behold lag showed up with them due to me playing the game at minimum specs on a 10 year old computer. Next thing I know my ship was gone and right after that I was doing the pod express to the other side of the Eve universe.

Needless to say that was definitely a wake up call and I learned a very expensive lesson from that experience, mainly keep your defenses active, don't multitask and have Drones set to show on a separate overview tab.





DMC

When your ships mids and lows are nothing but green, blue, and hell; purple, what the hell do you expect? The only things you should ever pimp are the damage mods, and either a cheap c-type prop mod or booster/repairer. Even then I would advise caution.

The problem is that they don't need tornado to kill faction battleships, and a failed attack don't mean any real money lose for them because destroyers are dirty cheap. Using destroyers they kill ships who worth 2000 times more! There is no real cost barrier for them, and with introduction of security tags was lifted the security status trash too.

You think that you are smart ant that will save you? Anytime you will find there a smarter ganker, ready to find a way to kill you, and your false sense of security will not protect against people who are determined to kill you

Correction 7.5 with just the four main factions. By using your Plan, each Epic Arc every 90 days, and a rather OCD mission running etiquette of 16 missions and a storyline till I get a something other than 'Materials for War' then go run 16 for another faction.

Gank in Highsec exists. Yes. Welcome to eve- deal with it. Being helpful at helpchannels, I'd like to give you some hints:

1) Evaluate your current gank risk level!

How can you do so?

• get to know gankers tactics. They usually operate at mission hubs, because they know a lot of noobs troll around there.
• stay cloaky at your favorite systems, whatch gankers work. Add every confirmed ganker to your contact list as -10 standing and have them marked online. Also mark their corp/ally, if this is a gankers corp/ally.
• watch local and your contact list before undocking. How many reds are online in your sys?

2) Dont fly shiny ships. Fly T2 only. If you prefer shiny ships, there are some basic rules:

1. always fly omni tanked, never mission specific!
2. always fly buffer tanked, nevery booster. You want to survive their alpha or if in 0.5 sec maybe their 2-3 alphas before concord saves you
3. always fly active hardeners and be prepared to immediatly overheat everything as soon as they warp-scramble you. This will gie you 20-40% more EHP. All you need to do ist to survive a maximum of 30 secs. so through it all in!
4. Fly as much ehp as needed for your fit. if you fly a 10b ship, dont bring just 50k Ehp. Bring 250k minimum plus overheat.
5. Add an ASB (if shield tanked). Use only navy caps. The ASB will recharge you quickly during the gank and directly after so gankers cant come a second wave.

If you follow the above suggestions, your reward will be extremely well, ISK/h wise. You will collect all the gankers loot and get killrights on each of them. Sell those for 20m each, cause even gankers fly shiny ships in missions here and then. Or they will take the killright off themselves giving you 20m per killright. This way, a failed gank attempt will bring you easily 200-300m in loot/killrights within 30 seconds. There is no better isk/h rate in all eve.

Enjoy and fly safe!

So in Missions & Complexes forum you explain to people that doing mission is normal to be a deadly activity and that is better to do trading? Well, you are obvious focused on expansion of game play....somehow.

It would be interesting to see what correlation there is in this thread between people who are in support of suicide ganking and those against, with current mission runners in high sec and members of null sec blobs who grind sov space plexes. I feel quite sure there would be a almost perfect match up.

I personally have little or no time for griefing in any of its guises as in my opinion pirates are criminals and thieves its just unfortunate that CCP doesnt agree being that they make the game.

CCP Fozie once said (on a alliance tourney web cast) that he made it his "mission in (EvE) life to ruin as many peoples day as possible". That says it all really .