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Chat log modification

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#21 - 2014-01-11 15:30:17 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Looks like I might be spending some time at work drafting a standard policy. Because I certainly don't do any work at work.



Will you be setting up a whole new corp? With a logo and uniforms and everything?

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Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
#22 - 2014-01-11 16:47:32 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
be required to type something in Local or other chat channel a couple seconds immediately before or after the kill.


Just note that if they're not afk, then during the time before the kill they will be trying to get their ship out, and for the first couple/few seconds after the ship blows (depending on latency during forced transfer from ship to pod) they'll be trying to get the pod out. Give them 5 seconds, as that gives them time to get the pod warping (or failing, but at least they could try) and get to the insurance channel to state the claim. 5 seconds is also consistent with the New Order, as James 315 gives his miners 5 seconds to answer his "Are You There?" question to prove they are not AFK.

Kimmi Chan wrote:
Fit a tank. (Verified by KM)
Don't be AFK. (Verified by chat log - maybe a trusted 3rd party)
Have standard insurance (this would classify more as GAP insurance)
Don't mine while actively war-decced.


1. You will need to define what would minimally qualify as "a tank" for insurance qualification purposes, as there is a huge difference between slapping a random small shield module on a Covetor versus a full-mids shield tank on a Procurer/Skiff. This definition will also have to extend to all types of tank possible for any barge. A Retriever, unlike its T2 counterpart, only has 1 midslot and cannot properly shield tank, for example. It will need to rely on speed or armor tanking to survive. Note that all mining ships do have enough lows to allocate one to a Damage Control of any Tech/Meta variant, so you could make that a required module.

2. See the note about time above. Other than that, no issue there.

3. This makes sense, as being a supplementary insurance means they're not getting extra isk from the gank. Well, unless they figure out how you determine the worth of the payout, and if it's based on the hull price they could speculate the market to raise the price of barges so you pay out more. Then again, if they can manage to pull that off, GG.

4. They can dec-dodge, by dropping to NPC corp, jumping to another corp that's not currently wardecced, or close and remake their current corp to waste their enemies' 50+m isk for only 1-2m.

Kimmi Chan wrote:
I could also add that NPC corp characters do not qualify. Not just for profit but in the interest of emergent gameplay. Not totally sold on this idea yet but...


That still leaves the other two methods listed in response to rule 4 to worry about. Those who would drop to NPC have fickle to nonexistant loyalties to player corps.


There are a few kinks to work out, mostly details. The biggest thing is to simultaneously protect yourself from scams and fraud while also not appearing to be one. Clarity in the rules for claims will help with both, with all the details worked out properly. Vagueness leads to people either tryin to exploit it to scam you, or claim you are scamming them to break down your reputation.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-01-11 20:40:12 UTC
surely they could just buy a mining permit, obey the code and be totally safe?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-01-11 23:26:49 UTC
Whats wrong with 2 simple rules:

1. Platinum insurance....
2. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose.

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#25 - 2014-01-12 09:07:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Kimmi Chan
Silvetica Dian wrote:
surely they could just buy a mining permit, obey the code and be totally safe?


Having the necessary permits would certainly lower their premiums. It would certainly reflect on the individual miner that they have accounted for all their operational costs. A responsible miner is a great customer.

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#26 - 2014-01-12 09:12:40 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Whats wrong with 2 simple rules:

1. Platinum insurance....
2. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose.


1. Platinum insurance does not pay the market value of the hull. That is the purpose of GAP insurance.
2. Of course, but why not be covered. No one ever truly plans on losing a hull. But in the event it does happen they can have piece of mind - because they were doing everything they were supposed to do, their friendly GAP insurance agent has their back.

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