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Dave Stark

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#21 - 2014-01-10 16:06:10 UTC | Edited by: Dave Stark

Batelle wrote:

Considering the orca can out-ehp a freighter, and that its called an "industrial command ship," I don't really know what the problem is here.

except outside of "i have more ehp than the ******* moon, and concord are on their way" it really has no method of defense. if concord isn't on its way then all that ehp means nothing. that's why there would be a use for a command ship that gives mining bonuses rather than a freighter with gang links being the only way of providing boosts for a mining fleet.

Malcolm Shinhwa

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#22 - 2014-01-10 17:11:42 UTC

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Gunnarr Saken wrote:

as miner have a 180sec cycle time with t2 mine strippers and low yield.

Here's a crazy supercool idea

Put some crystals in your strip miners.

I have an additional supercool idea: Get more pilots in corp.

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#23 - 2014-01-10 17:21:58 UTC

Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Gunnarr Saken wrote:

as miner have a 180sec cycle time with t2 mine strippers and low yield.

Here's a crazy supercool idea

Put some crystals in your strip miners.

I have an additional supercool idea: Get more pilots in corp.

The idea's don't stop there.

I hear that mining permit's give 100% boost to yield.

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#24 - 2014-01-10 17:29:34 UTC

KnowUsByTheDead wrote:

Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Gunnarr Saken wrote:

as miner have a 180sec cycle time with t2 mine strippers and low yield.

Here's a crazy supercool idea

Put some crystals in your strip miners.

I have an additional supercool idea: Get more pilots in corp.

The idea's don't stop there.

I hear that mining permit's give 100% boost to yield.

Not sure about that. They do, however, boost your charisma massively.

Lucas Kell

Solitude Trading

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#25 - 2014-01-10 17:45:46 UTC

Dave Stark wrote:

Batelle wrote:

Considering the orca can out-ehp a freighter, and that its called an "industrial command ship," I don't really know what the problem is here.

That's really weird, you might want to petition that. On top of it's 240k uniform EHP, my orca has a drone bay capable of fielding 5 medium and 5 small drones, allowing you to choose an appropriate size for your target and deal a couple of hundred DPS. And the general idea is that you don't fly it alone, it tanks long enough for the rest of your fleet to nuke the attacker.

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#26 - 2014-01-10 18:27:32 UTC

Lucas Kell wrote:

Dave Stark wrote:

Batelle wrote:

Considering the orca can out-ehp a freighter, and that its called an "industrial command ship," I don't really know what the problem is here.

Of course if concord are on their way, ecm drones would be more useful.

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#27 - 2014-01-10 18:35:18 UTC

Dave Stark wrote:

Batelle wrote:

Considering the orca can out-ehp a freighter, and that its called an "industrial command ship," I don't really know what the problem is here.

except outside of "i have more ehp than the ******* moon, and concord are on their way" it really has no method of defense.

But that's exactly what "brick" tanking is, and exactly what the damnation does, which you specifically cited as being examples of what your proposed ship should do.

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#28 - 2014-01-10 19:42:49 UTC

Batelle wrote:

Dave Stark wrote:

Batelle wrote:

Considering the orca can out-ehp a freighter, and that its called an "industrial command ship," I don't really know what the problem is here.

except outside of "i have more ehp than the ******* moon, and concord are on their way" it really has no method of defense.

But that's exactly what "brick" tanking is, and exactly what the damnation does, which you specifically cited as being examples of what your proposed ship should do.

the issue is most of an orca's ehp is in structure, unlike a damnation which has most of it's ehp in armour which means it's far easier to support with logistics.

i'm not saying the orca is bad at what it does, far from it. the orca is an amazing ship. however i think there's space for something with more teeth at the expense of the logistics capability that the orca offers. This would also remedy the issue with bringing mining links on grid; we will have a more suitable ship for hostile situations. easier to support, more gtfo ability, same mining bonuses. should/would ccp ever put time in to creating something like this? unlikely. Would it be wasted if they did; i don't think it would be a waste.

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Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#29 - 2014-01-10 19:51:35 UTC I find OP's lack of corp disturbing. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

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buyer Bedala Doomheim Likes received: 11	#30 - 2014-01-11 02:27:27 UTC Gunnarr Saken wrote: Karen Avioras wrote: Get an orca alt yourself? Lots of pilots including myself don't and cant have two pilots, i would love to get a alt orca pilot but this is not possible. Dude, your mining. Thats the perfect activity for having an orca pilot alt. It pays for itself.

Dave Stark

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#31 - 2014-01-11 08:38:55 UTC

buyer Bedala wrote:

Gunnarr Saken wrote:

Karen Avioras wrote:

Get an orca alt yourself?

Lots of pilots including myself don't and cant have two pilots, i would love to get a alt orca pilot but this is not possible.

Dude, your mining. Thats the perfect activity for having an orca pilot alt. It pays for itself.

the more miner alts you stack in a fleet, the cheaper your orca pilot becomes.

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Honrado deQuiros Cartella Shipments and Storage Likes received: 27	#32 - 2014-01-11 08:46:09 UTC How much alts you have now Dave?


Dave Stark Likes received: 7,950	#33 - 2014-01-11 08:50:29 UTC Honrado deQuiros wrote: How much alts you have now Dave? i have 3 accounts. 2 active, 1 unsubbed.

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Vespiidius The Icarus Expedition Solyaris Chtonium Likes received: 38	#34 - 2014-01-11 13:34:25 UTC 1 When I first started mining in hisec I had this issue and found that if I chatted in local and made friends I could usually find an orca pilot who was willing to let me join fleet and share boosts. Get to know your neighbors.

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James Amril-Kesh Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 11,532	#35 - 2014-01-11 13:38:43 UTC Gunnarr Saken wrote: cant EVE create a module that give miners bonuses in that corp if the mine in the system :) Sure, if the bonuses are significantly inferior to base mining link bonuses. That way nobody would use them anyway. Enjoying the rain today? ;)