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Maybe it is time for Low sec without supers?
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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#81 - 2011-11-24 04:58:59 UTC
Blast x wrote:


few titans,few sc,few carriers,few t3s ,few comedy fits

384 kills - 2 frigs lost

without titans and supers the result would have been EXACTLY the same // if not better


FEW TITANS, oh the comedy
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Joseph Dreadloch
Dread Space Inc.
#82 - 2011-11-24 05:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Joseph Dreadloch
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=32454

I've been behind this idea for a while. I haven't received much support at all though really...
Walter Stine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#83 - 2011-11-24 05:24:28 UTC
Because it's a terrible idea.
Angel Lust
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2011-11-24 05:28:51 UTC
When some alliances found out that they couldnt beat supercap fleets
they went crying to CCP and wanted a nerf.
They got it...

Cry a little more and im sure supers will be removed from lowsec

Start a threadnougth Cool
Joseph Dreadloch
Dread Space Inc.
#85 - 2011-11-24 05:29:46 UTC
Walter Stine wrote:
Because it's a terrible idea.


Its true, those with caps will never support it, those without would love it.

Looking at it objectively though, what would be wrong with making lowsec home to subcap PvP? You'd still have the entirety of null to use your super blobs. Or is it too risky to drop your supers somewhere someone might actually drop some back on you?
Ikra Atarm
The defenders of Greyskull inc.
#86 - 2011-11-24 09:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikra Atarm
Blast x wrote:
OninoTimmo wrote:
Ikra Atarm wrote:
Mik kyo wrote:
Why do you think that your scub pubbie fleet should beat an elite pvp fleet?

Can't beat us unless you play the game bros.


So an elite pvp fleet is one were u drop on a fleet 10th of Ur size with supers
Sad as very few of your elite pvpers will have a kmail with less than 30 people on it
An ofc Ur elite pvp fleets have managed to give pl the insane kd of 3-1


We jumped into a hostile system filled with 600 HOSTILES with only a fleet of 50 and forged into battle under insurmountable 10:1 odds. And like GLORIOUS WARRIORS OF VALHALLA, we BRAWLED them all down and emerged as the victors of day. We are literally Spartan warriors (except that we don't die [unless the system starts in Y-])


57 PL - check kb and count
against 600 local ..plenty of screenshots with 650-700 or more in local
600local=500pubbies+110goons

few titans,few sc,few carriers,few t3s ,few comedy fits

384 kills - 2 frigs lost

without titans and supers the result would have been EXACTLY the same // if not better


o without the supers u wouldq got uttely destroyed I mean seriously I've seen pl drop 9 supers on asingle carrier yes cos tgats elite pvp showing ur skillful flying by stacking odds so high in ur favour u cant loose i dont mind supers in low they are quite rare but classifying blobbage for elite pvp is somthing which i disqgee with pl take the cynos of Ur ships get an 8 man gang an exeriqnce pow for whqt its really like yes mistakes in this pawsqge but on phone cba messing with auto correct
CyberStar
Ancient Artifacts
#87 - 2011-11-24 10:03:50 UTC
Ikra Atarm wrote:

o without the supers u wouldq got uttely destroyed I mean seriously I've seen pl drop 9 supers on asingle carrier yes cos tgats elite pvp showing ur skillful flying by stacking odds so high in ur favour u cant loose i dont mind supers in low they are quite rare but classifying blobbage for elite pvp is somthing which i disqgee with pl take the cynos of Ur ships get an 8 man gang an exeriqnce pow for whqt its really like yes mistakes in this pawsqge but on phone cba messing with auto correct


You sir are pretty dumb, saying. Multiple supers dropped on a single carrier is so that is dies in about 3 seconds.
Spectre80
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2011-11-24 10:04:46 UTC
Tyears wrote:
They already can't DD, deal with it. Maybe you shouldn't be in a such a scrub alliance with such few supers?



PL/Raiden alt?
Ikra Atarm
The defenders of Greyskull inc.
#89 - 2011-11-24 10:13:02 UTC
CyberStar wrote:
Ikra Atarm wrote:

o without the supers u wouldq got uttely destroyed I mean seriously I've seen pl drop 9 supers on asingle carrier yes cos tgats elite pvp showing ur skillful flying by stacking odds so high in ur favour u cant loose i dont mind supers in low they are quite rare but classifying blobbage for elite pvp is somthing which i disqgee with pl take the cynos of Ur ships get an 8 man gang an exeriqnce pow for whqt its really like yes mistakes in this pawsqge but on phone cba messing with auto correct


You sir are pretty dumb, saying. Multiple supers dropped on a single carrier is so that is dies in about 3 seconds.




Exactly when you kill something in 3 secs how does that classiify as elite pvp
Lexmana
#90 - 2011-11-24 10:22:52 UTC
proxwar wrote:
I just know that if low sec was limited to sub-cap ship hulls, i and probably thousands of other "bears" would come play in low a lot more, As it is, constantly worrying about cap hot drop blobs is reason enough to stay high and let low stagnate.

Jus' sayin CCP.


Have you actually been killed by a super in lowsec? You should probably be more worried about frigates, cruisers, & battlecruisers tbh. Worrying about supers in lowsec is like being afraid of flying while riding a motorcycle to the airport.
Mahakaharashi RedEagle
Doomheim
#91 - 2011-11-24 10:41:54 UTC
Supercaps are bane of EVE, they should be completely removed - not only from lowsec.
proxwar
Doomheim
#92 - 2011-11-24 14:24:23 UTC
simon perry wrote:
proxwar wrote:
I just know that if low sec was limited to sub-cap ship hulls, i and probably thousands of other "bears" would come play in low a lot more, As it is, constantly worrying about cap hot drop blobs is reason enough to stay high and let low stagnate.

Jus' sayin CCP.


You are so mislead. Super or no super most low sec groups know how to fight and you would still lose, if they weren’t in a super they would be in something else still killing you.



Oh of course yes, im misled because you know me right? Presumption is the mother of all.......

For your information as it obviously bothers you, i have been in low many times, and yes by my own admission i have only been hot dropped by supers on 4 of those occasions. But on all 4, im sure i dont need to reveal the results of those encounters.

As for getting killed in something else, im cool with that, in fact i'd invite it, as getting killed by another sub cap fleet is more welcome and easier to swallow than getting WTFBBQPWND by a super blob hot drop.

It's akin to challenging me to a drag race, me in my ford and you in your Veyron.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#93 - 2011-11-24 15:18:45 UTC
To those saying don't be worried about dying to supers in low sec, I'm not. I am happy to die in low sec, I just want a chance to kill you. More precisely I'd like at least part of low sec 0.29-0.49 to be Cap free, or at LEAST cyno free, you want those big boys take them gate to gate.

I can't use Bombs, I can't use bubbles but you can POOF appear and KNOW you can get away, where the **** are the consequences?
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#94 - 2011-11-24 15:21:56 UTC
Nah don't ban supers, just allow bombs.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#95 - 2011-11-24 15:35:01 UTC
Completely barring them access will make having them a hassle when they have to be moved so not a good way to go, much better to restrict their use and/or increase their vulnerability while in empire space.
Former can be done by coding the same rules that apply to high-sec capitals, that is no hostile/targeted module activation whatsoever .. kind of harsh but the only way to remove the hot-drop blob.
Latter can be done by tying invulnerability to sovereignty so that supers used for anything outside ones own dominion (incl. empire/low-sec) will be subject to points from noob frigs and all the shades of faggotry that represent low-sec.

Either way, they need considerably more of a nerf than what CCP has on the table .. the super blobs will have 1% (arbitrary number) decrease in power compared to now so has no effect on status quo. They will actually benefit even more from blobbing with the coming changes .. yay for CCP's grand vision and unrivalled intelligence!
simon perry
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#96 - 2011-11-24 15:35:11 UTC  |  Edited by: simon perry
proxwar wrote:
simon perry wrote:
proxwar wrote:
I just know that if low sec was limited to sub-cap ship hulls, i and probably thousands of other "bears" would come play in low a lot more, As it is, constantly worrying about cap hot drop blobs is reason enough to stay high and let low stagnate.

Jus' sayin CCP.


You are so mislead. Super or no super most low sec groups know how to fight and you would still lose, if they weren’t in a super they would be in something else still killing you.



Oh of course yes, im misled because you know me right? Presumption is the mother of all.......

For your information as it obviously bothers you, i have been in low many times, and yes by my own admission i have only been hot dropped by supers on 4 of those occasions. But on all 4, im sure i dont need to reveal the results of those encounters.

As for getting killed in something else, im cool with that, in fact i'd invite it, as getting killed by another sub cap fleet is more welcome and easier to swallow than getting WTFBBQPWND by a super blob hot drop.

It's akin to challenging me to a drag race, me in my ford and you in your Veyron.


How about post with your main, since I can’t judge on your stats I can only judge you on the crap you write.... and you write pure crap to be honest. I live in low sec, always have in fact (2006). I have been dropped by supers twice, once we deserved it, the second I was camping a rapier in station LOL.
simon perry
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#97 - 2011-11-24 15:41:12 UTC  |  Edited by: simon perry
Joseph Dreadloch wrote:
Walter Stine wrote:
Because it's a terrible idea.


Its true, those with caps will never support it, those without would love it.

Looking at it objectively though, what would be wrong with making lowsec home to subcap PvP? You'd still have the entirety of null to use your super blobs. Or is it too risky to drop your supers somewhere someone might actually drop some back on you?


Yes very objective ^^ You may as well have said I am a vegetarian, but looking at it objectively every person that eats meat should die!
flakeys
Doomheim
#98 - 2011-11-24 16:15:32 UTC
Banning them from low would be a bad idea as they need the freedom to move around wich only makes sence , however they should not be able to do anything else then just that , move around.Once they dive into low-sec their mods/fighters should not be able to do anything.

yes , not even if agressed .

Dreads , carriers etc is a different thing and yes they can also be a pain in the ass but you gotta draw a line somewhere right Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Xavier Saraki
Saraki Brothers
#99 - 2011-11-24 16:28:04 UTC
For a game that people play for the "sandbox" it seems like a lot of you want the game to have more controlled environments. Some of you just said CCP should be telling the players how to play EVE. Shocked
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#100 - 2011-11-24 16:35:05 UTC
+1, lowsec is dumb as **** right now, crap isk, yet at any time you can be blobed by supers, can't bubble them down, can't DD them, wtf? Let supers run in lowsec, but no wepons... at least can not launch fighter bombers.

HS no caps,
LS no supercap weps (dd, FB's etc),
NS FFA.

I mean you can't even bomb in low, but you can use fighter bombers...

Er, I'd much rather have bombs in lowsec than supers, hell I'd rather have bombs with no change to supers... why not?