Ships & Modules

you dont need mwd in lowsec all it does is slowing your alignment due to increased mass.
Instead of damage control (which wont save you anyways) better 1x nanofiber, even better 2x nano 2x inertia stab.

yeah np. You need mwd only in 0.0 for the case you need to burn out of a dictor bubble/evading decloakers during that.

Take advantage of it having a big enough cargohold to fit either

1 Cruiser
2 Destroyers
4 Frigates
2 Frigates and a Destroyer

[Prorator, Transport]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
[Empty Med slot]

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

MWD is only there for the occasions when you land at a station outside of docking range

Thanks degnar but im with robert on this. Its crucial that i can align and get off a gate asap...

You'll want to use "local hull inertia stabilizers" instead of the tech 2 ones. They have the same agility modifier, but the meta 4 ones have a much smaller signature boost, so it will make you a little harder to target.

Don't ever fit ECM burst modules to these types of ships. If you use them you will incur aggression and will not be able to jump should you need to burn back to any gate (which is why I fit an MWD on mine). This will conflict with others advice but shield buffer tank, stabs and nanos is the way to go.

wow a lot of conflicting information here guys.

still i appreciate all the responses. many thanks

ok so after taking your advice into consideration ive come up with this

[Prorator, Unnamed loadout]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

Checked and with my skills the align time is 4.6 seconds with MWD off.

This drops to 4.3 seconds with 1 LFNJ

and to 4.1 seconds with 2 LFNJ

but if bertrand is right about the server ticks then it doesnt make a difference.

Does the prowler really do it better?

One more time. For a lowsec Prorator (not a highsec Prorator, not a nullsec Prorator).

1. Align time rounds UP. That means you need 3 nanos in a Prorator (or a nano and a meta inertia stab if you want to take the signature hit) to get the 4 tick align time. Two nanos wont cut it (you will warp in 5 ticks, so leaving 1 nano in will do the same thing for agility). Shaving off a second in align time is very important against drone swarms.

2. If you are content with a 4-6km3 cargo hold, fitting warp speed rigs is the only viable option. With the Rubicon expansion the difference in round trip time is vast. Before the expansion, cargo rigs together with the odd speed/agility rig were the norm.

3. Other than nanos, the only thing you should fit in your lows is cargohold modules. WCS are completely and utterly useless in the LS camp environment if you are de-cloaked, same goes for DC. WCS also give you a false sense of protection.

4. Do not tank your Prorator. If someone can cut through your HP without the tank, they will also cut through it with. The only thing you can put in your mids is a MWD for faster docking or burning back to gate (or burning vertically to the plane) with the MWD+cloak trick. Buffer tanking boosts your signature, active tanking is worthless for the hulltype. Run the numbers for the amount of DPS needed to destroy a buffer or active tanked BR that is webbed, scrammed and moving back to the gate.

5. ECM bursts are not a casually used module. They are only used if you are decloaked and pointed, while you are aligned and pushing the warp button to bounce to a celestial. They may give you a 15% chance to survive if you are caught, but fitting something else in the slot will give you zero. No buts or ifs. zero.

Most people don't understand the above points, and will not understand them in the future. Not everyone makes his living in EVE from flying BRs in lowsec, and not everyone has been decloaked and pointed in a BR to understand what matters most. Its ok.

I agree WCS are not great options, but they could save you from a suicide tackle in hisec, or if you hit a drag bubble camped by 1-2 persons. Adding a little bit of tank would also help in both those situations. Sig radius is only going to really hurt if you are getting targeted, which ideally should never happen, but some extra tank will make you less vulnerable to things that can kill you without targeting you ie smartbombs, which can happen on hisec gates or undocks, but mostly as you come out of warp while traveling gate-to-gate in lowsec.

as this discussion has shown, with the exception of how much cargo you have, almost all your fittings choices are to potentially save you from a bad situation, but even then if you do encounter that bad situation, there's only a small chance they can save you.

I'm also not 100% convinced about align time rounding up. I understand that the server processes input and updates clients on 1Hz ticks, but there's no way that all the calculations are done with such low precision. That would really throw a wrench into the effectiveness of autocannons if there was no performance difference between a 2.1second RoF and a 2.9 RoF. Assuming a ship doesn't cloak, if it starts its warp on tick 0, and a ship targets it starting on tick 2, it would seem to me that even if the lock and align finish between tick 3 and 4, the server should easily be able to know which happens first without further player input. Meaning that if you can cut your align time from 3.9 to 3.4, that still helps a lot.