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How to explain eve to a non-player.

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Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-10 17:54:31 UTC
So, today I was thinking about how to explain New Eden to other mmo players, and this is what I came up with.

Other MMO:
Give a group of kids sticks, tell them where the pinata is, and that it has enough loot in it to make everyone happy. Watch them go cooperate and break the pinata.

EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks and tell them that somewhere in the neighborhood there is a pinata with just enough loot for one of them. Don't tell them what it is or looks like, or even that the pinata could be another kid. Just tell them everything is fair game. Watch as they beat each other, the ground, the trees, the cars, and some old ladys dog half to death before realizing that there was only a 50% chance that there even was a pinata to start with.

God I love this game.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-01-10 17:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Verdis deMosays wrote:


EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks and tell them that somewhere in the neighborhood there is a pinata with just enough loot for one of them. Don't tell them what it is or looks like, or even that the pinata could be another kid. Just tell them everything is fair game. Watch as they beat each other, the ground, the trees, the cars, and some old ladys dog half to death before realizing that there was only a 50% chance that there even was a pinata to start with.

God I love this game.


Add this:

At least fifty percent of you will get hit by cars or shot in drivebys

Twenty five percent will get killed in suicide bomb attacks

Fifteen percent will be eaten by flesh craving insects from beyond time

Eight percent will be shot by the police

One point five percent will get killed by other members of the group

Point 4 percent will die mysteriously in their sleep

point one percent will become MORE POWERFUL THAN A GOD

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#3 - 2014-01-10 17:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Rayo Atra
My little sisters birthday party is tomorrow. I know the fat girl is going to get blobbed so quickly.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#4 - 2014-01-10 18:05:05 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
So, today I was thinking about how to explain New Eden to other mmo players, and this is what I came up with.

Other MMO:
Give a group of kids sticks, tell them where the pinata is, and that it has enough loot in it to make everyone happy. Watch them go cooperate and break the pinata.

EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks and tell them that somewhere in the neighborhood there is a pinata with just enough loot for one of them. Don't tell them what it is or looks like, or even that the pinata could be another kid. Just tell them everything is fair game. Watch as they beat each other, the ground, the trees, the cars, and some old ladys dog half to death before realizing that there was only a 50% chance that there even was a pinata to start with.

God I love this game.


I think this too over-complicated. BLOWING UP SPACESHIPS. That is all.

You certainly wouldn't tell them about the awesomeness of mining. Imagine an Eve promotional video that just showed a guy or a group of guys mining for the 60s of the spot. Maybe have some rats show up and get killed by drones.

That would certainly get the people flocking to play. Wouldn't it?


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Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-01-10 18:08:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Verdis deMosays wrote:


EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks and tell them that somewhere in the neighborhood there is a pinata with just enough loot for one of them. Don't tell them what it is or looks like, or even that the pinata could be another kid. Just tell them everything is fair game. Watch as they beat each other, the ground, the trees, the cars, and some old ladys dog half to death before realizing that there was only a 50% chance that there even was a pinata to start with.

God I love this game.


Add this:

At least fifty percent of you will get hit by cars or shot in drivebys

Twenty five percent will get killed in suicide bomb attacks

Fifteen percent will be eaten by flesh craving insects from beyond time

Eight percent will be shot by the police

One point five percent will get killed by other members of the group

Point 4 percent will die mysteriously in their sleep

point one percent will become MORE POWERFUL THAN A GOD


In the words of Krieger: also, yes
Favonius85
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-01-10 18:13:20 UTC
This quote captures EVE for me:

"It's a glorified space themed chat room for the nerds that are to nerds what nerds are to normal people."

-Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-01-10 18:21:53 UTC
Favonius85 wrote:
This quote captures EVE for me:

"It's a glorified space themed chat room for the nerds that are to nerds what nerds are to normal people."

-Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw


Yahtzee as a frickin douche

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#8 - 2014-01-10 18:24:14 UTC
Favonius85 wrote:
Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw

Yahtzee has **** on everything since Silent Hill 2. I wouldn't use him to explain games to anyone.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-01-10 18:26:24 UTC
Logical 101 wrote:
Favonius85 wrote:
Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw

Yahtzee has **** on everything since Silent Hill 2. I wouldn't use him to explain games to anyone.


I like the guy who animates his stuff though

Someone should find him a decent blogger to work with

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-10 18:29:31 UTC
BOOBEES! BOOBEES EVERYWHERE!!!!

Oh and spaceships, too!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Acmeaviator
Acme Space Corp
#11 - 2014-01-10 18:33:14 UTC
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You certainly wouldn't tell them about the awesomeness of mining. Imagine an Eve promotional video that just showed a guy or a group of guys mining for the 60s of the spot. Maybe have some rats show up and get killed by drones.


Funny thing there are thousands - maybe ten's of thousands - of us that spend most of our EvE time doing this. Where do you think all those ships you blow up come from?

So I'd add "unlike other MMO's the crafting and financial system is realistically complex and actually impacts the game. In fact the financial and crafting mechanics and their skillful use has greater impact on EvE than any ship(s) you blow up.
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#12 - 2014-01-10 18:33:49 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks....

What sort of socialist drivel is that?

Sell them sticks that are really straws dipped in crap to look like sticks

Fear God and Thread Nought
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#13 - 2014-01-10 18:35:46 UTC
Feudalism in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE.
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#14 - 2014-01-10 18:42:51 UTC
It's Excel Online
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2014-01-10 18:47:07 UTC
Eve can be summed up in one phrase from 'The New Guy":


The sex you want, you don't get. The sex you get....you don't want.


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#16 - 2014-01-10 18:48:26 UTC
*PEW PEW BANG BANG TATATATATATATATATATATATATATA PEW PEW POP PEW POP TEAR POP TEAR QUIT QUIT PEW TATATATATATATATA PEW TEAR, **** YOU!*

...
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-10 18:53:53 UTC
Jackie Fisher wrote:
Verdis deMosays wrote:
EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks....

What sort of socialist drivel is that?

Sell them sticks that are really straws dipped in crap to look like sticks


Already exist, look in the market under infantry equipment, weapons, light weapons, Plasma Cannon.
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#18 - 2014-01-10 18:56:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Logical 101
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I like the guy who animates his stuff though

Agreed. And don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but I go to him for giggles, not for legit reviews.

Sometimes he hits the mark, but there's a reason he sticks with 1P stuff; it's easier to play through and pick apart. EVE is often described by gamers as "the one game I always really liked but never tried", and there's a good reason for that. Once you get into the gritty details of time training, fleet compositions, politics, fittings, doctrines, and all that noise, it's a turnoff for the gamer looking for a quick thrill as opposed to a focus title.

I have always preferred focus titles, and that's why I'm here.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-01-10 19:03:55 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
So, today I was thinking about how to explain New Eden to other mmo players, and this is what I came up with. .

This works.

Would you like to know more?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-01-10 19:04:04 UTC
You can't just explain it. You will need meta explanation to get a real explanation.
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