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Thirty plus Procurer botlike armada in Osmon ice belts.

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Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#141 - 2014-01-10 04:26:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Erro Fenn
Chicknhawk wrote:
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.


Dude you have **** for brains. 30+ miners and 1 frigate you say. Isn't it 30+ active subs?

Now between how many clients is possible ALT+TAB, 5 perhaps, at the best.

Next, what kind of computer is needed to run 5 clients simultaneously? Remember each client require certain chunk or RAM and CPU time. In my case game takes 600+ Mb, multiply with 5, 3 Gb plus Windows, 1.2 Gb +.

It is a gang, who mining to convert ISK in to plexes. Years ago WoW had something similar, they where called Chineese gold farmers.

And then starts. Waah, waah miners... Waah, waah New Order. You idiots harassing wrong peoples.
Besides did CCP hired you as game masters or you just doing self justice. I bet it is the last thing.

Speaking of New Order. A NPC corp? What a bunch of sissies and cowards. Second, because a NPC corp can not be retaliated, it is a clear abuse of game mechanics.
And last thing, GM's stated that miner bumping is acceptable but no more than once, if victim being followed and bumped over and over again, it is classified as a harassment.
Now things got even better, New Order goons continuously following miners, buy bumping over and over and demanding 10 mil ISK. Wonderful, now this game has a racketeering sissies, cowardly hiding behind NPC corp.

Get rid of plex and miners will be gone. But it won't happen, plex is additional income for CCP. So you complained to CCP about their business model. Rather say thank you to CCP that they bringing on table something to kill.

What an idiot you are.
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2014-01-10 08:59:56 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:


Dude you have **** for brains. 30+ miners and 1 frigate you say. Isn't it 30+ active subs?

Now between how many clients is possible ALT+TAB, 5 perhaps, at the best.

Next, what kind of computer is needed to run 5 clients simultaneously? Remember each client require certain chunk or RAM and CPU time. In my case game takes 600+ Mb, multiply with 5, 3 Gb plus Windows, 1.2 Gb +.

It is a gang, who mining to convert ISK in to plexes. Years ago WoW had something similar, they where called Chineese gold farmers.

And then starts. Waah, waah miners... Waah, waah New Order. You idiots harassing wrong peoples.
Besides did CCP hired you as game masters or you just doing self justice. I bet it is the last thing.

Speaking of New Order. A NPC corp? What a bunch of sissies and cowards. Second, because a NPC corp can not be retaliated, it is a clear abuse of game mechanics.
And last thing, GM's stated that miner bumping is acceptable but no more than once, if victim being followed and bumped over and over again, it is classified as a harassment.
Now things got even better, New Order goons continuously following miners, buy bumping over and over and demanding 10 mil ISK. Wonderful, now this game has a racketeering sissies, cowardly hiding behind NPC corp.

Get rid of plex and miners will be gone. But it won't happen, plex is additional income for CCP. So you complained to CCP about their business model. Rather say thank you to CCP that they bringing on table something to kill.

What an idiot you are.


Actually Bro you are the idiot. Multiple clients arent that hard to run, somewhere on the forums there is a guy who talks about having 5 computers that all run 20 clients a pop. WoW(and every MMO) still has gold farmers not all multiboxers are such. Eve is built on players getting their own justice. New Order isnt an NPC corp its a group that transcends in game groups (i.e. several different corps alliances and single players). Actually Devs stated that bumping only one person constantly just to bump them is harassment, if you are trying to extort them or drive off your competition its completely fine to bump them till they leave, as to the racketeering from New Order... well its a brilliant business plan to be honest its also one of the key points that EVE was built on= Take what you can and defend it from people trying to do the same. As for the Plex thing... well thats just stupid Plex is what allows quite a few people to be able to play this game when they usually wouldn't be able to.

I believe I countered all your baseless claims... please refrain from talking out of your ass any more thank you and good day Madame.

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#143 - 2014-01-10 15:07:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Erro Fenn
Haha... Talks, does he have picture to prove claim, he have made. Obviously you have no clue about computers. I can claim that I am Jesus Christ. Do you believe that?

EVE is far more complicated than Minesweeper. This is the best, what I could find: http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/04/13/eve-online-player-creates-incredible-multi-box-setup/

8 computers, 14 clients. Where is another 16+ clients? Besides you did not mentioned any thing about 30+ active subs.

Brilliant business plan you say, that's what historians also say if they talking about Al Capone. Question is, who is profiting?
Where those millions go? To me it sounds like someone is using brain dead goons for making profit. Because he is too lazy do things, what other players doing to get ISK. And as usually with any religious sect, followers are blind and stupid.

Once you drive off multiboxers and new players, finally peace comes and you can start crying on forums again that EVE has no content to offer.

Loving EVE forums, it is like visiting high security prison, where the best of the worst spending rest of their miserable lives.

And what's with your wall of text, did any one mentioned to you anything about paragraphing, in any time or any space?
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#144 - 2014-01-10 16:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Erro Fenn wrote:
Chicknhawk wrote:
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.


Dude you have **** for brains. 30+ miners and 1 frigate you say. Isn't it 30+ active subs?
The Wiz has posted video of his Barge Fleet undocking. It takes *five* minutes to complete - WELL over thirty barges. All controlled by one man. Look around - it's out there.

Here's one multi-boxer's rig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5VvZD8UHg

Do some research before spouting-off.

Edit: corrected my numbers.

Edit some more:
Found the thread. Unfortunately, he's since restricted access to the vids. Shame, really - they were impressive.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2550988#post2550988
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#145 - 2014-01-10 16:45:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Erro Fenn
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Erro Fenn wrote:
Chicknhawk wrote:
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.


Dude you have **** for brains. 30+ miners and 1 frigate you say. Isn't it 30+ active subs?
The Wiz has posted video of his Barge Fleet undocking. It takes *five* minutes to complete - WELL over thirty barges. All controlled by one man. Look around - it's out there.

Here's one multi-boxer's rig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5VvZD8UHg

Do some research before spouting-off.

Edit: corrected my numbers.

Edit some more:
Found the thread. Unfortunately, he's since restricted access to the vids. Shame, really - they were impressive.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2550988#post2550988


Ok, thank you for links. But I'm quoting him.

Quote:
Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that?


Here is the answer to all riddles. Which I pointed out before. Also it means that he has sell ISK or plexe's to cover $20K per year.

I bet he is making far more than $20K per year, for him paying to New Order for "protection" is nothing. Who suffers?
Those who are not botting and doing mining honestly, even if mining AFK, alias sitting in the roid field and waiting ore hold to be filled up, with single ship.

This entire game is so ****** up inside out.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#146 - 2014-01-10 17:12:29 UTC
*he's* not the one paying teh US$20K. Other players are, and they're getting in-game ISK in exchange. CCP games is the one realizing the profit.

Now, compare what one individual, at max-burn can do to say, what one massive alliance - Say, Goons, or NC, makes, and you'll see that he's not unbalancing the system at all - Inded, he's mildly redressing the balance. Major alliances might not have teh same yeild-per-person, but they've got a LOT more persons...

The Wiz doesn't bother me. Except in as much as he's proven a maddeningly hard target to gank. I'm part of teh Disco fleet that'sbeen stalking him, and we've never managed to catch him with his proverbial knickers-amungst-ankles. But one day... Oh, yes. One day... And the KM will be beyond epic!
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#147 - 2014-01-10 17:43:48 UTC
Yes, one day in distant future after 25 years. So meanwhile you are loving gank noobs because they are easy targets and gank less experienced miners. Because they don't know much about game yet, they just trying make some ISK, which is needed for progression in this game.

Racketeering and ganking is not exactly best for new comers and less experienced players feel welcomed.

Do you realize that buy doing so, you and your fellow goons actually killing game buy little bit every day?

What kind of crap hole is this place, full of social retards? I have seen bad social behavior before, it is normal part of any MMO.
But this game tops up every other game buy 10 times.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#148 - 2014-01-10 18:14:13 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:
Do you realize that buy doing so, you and your fellow goons actually killing game buy little bit every day?

EVE is the only MMO that grows every year for 10 years now. Your argument is not only bad, it is invalid.

Erro Fenn wrote:
What kind of crap hole is this place, full of social retards? I have seen bad social behavior before, it is normal part of any MMO.
But this game tops up every other game buy 10 times.

EVE has one of the best communities in all the games I have played so far. I think the community is so great because people like you, who don't get the game, rage like little kids and then blame others for their deficiency get filtered out at an early stage. I am really really glad this is the case.
Adolph Weltschmerz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#149 - 2014-01-10 18:15:09 UTC
The rules are the same for all of us. We are all free to get as many accounts as we want and multibox all day. I fail to see a problem.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#150 - 2014-01-10 18:30:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Erro Fenn
Quote:
EVE is the only MMO that grows every year for 10 years now. Your argument is not only bad, it is invalid.


Your brain is invalid. I have been playing this game for less than month. Some days I have been online for 16 hours or more.
Every day I see less than 50K players online, mostly around 40K. Where is your ******* growth?
While Blizzard/Activision have made billions of dollars in 9 years with just 1 game.
Big flop called SWTOR had at launch about 4-5 million copies sold. What kind of growth you talking about?

Quote:
EVE has one of the best communities in all the games I have played so far. I think the community is so great because people like you, who don't get the game, rage like little kids and then blame others for their deficiency get filtered out at an early stage. I am really really glad this is the case.


Riiight... Tell me who is your friend and I'm going to tell you who you are.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#151 - 2014-01-10 18:35:19 UTC
Adolph Weltschmerz wrote:
The rules are the same for all of us. We are all free to get as many accounts as we want and multibox all day. I fail to see a problem.

Correct, no problem for experienced players. What about peoples with just 1 account and 1 character?

Your measurement tape is incorrect, please replace it.
Adolph Weltschmerz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#152 - 2014-01-10 19:03:58 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:
Adolph Weltschmerz wrote:
The rules are the same for all of us. We are all free to get as many accounts as we want and multibox all day. I fail to see a problem.

Correct, no problem for experienced players. What about peoples with just 1 account and 1 character?

Your measurement tape is incorrect, please replace it.


If you want more than one account, get more accounts. We are free to play the game as we want to. Why is it wrong to multibox with 40 accounts? Is it too efficient? Is this miner too good at eve? Is eve running out of ice?

To OP:
Im sure he cant have his fleet everywhere at once. Isnt it possible to simply mine somewhere else?
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#153 - 2014-01-10 19:11:14 UTC
Quote:
The Wiz doesn't bother me. Except in as much as he's proven a maddeningly hard target to gank. I'm part of teh Disco fleet that'sbeen stalking him, and we've never managed to catch him with his proverbial knickers-amungst-ankles. But one day... Oh, yes. One day... And the KM will be beyond epic!

This...
He is too good, alias very experienced. Because Order can not catch him then all crap falls on to single account owners and less experienced players.
Dave stark
#154 - 2014-01-10 19:54:10 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:
Adolph Weltschmerz wrote:
The rules are the same for all of us. We are all free to get as many accounts as we want and multibox all day. I fail to see a problem.

Correct, no problem for experienced players. What about peoples with just 1 account and 1 character?

Your measurement tape is incorrect, please replace it.


what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#155 - 2014-01-10 20:38:18 UTC
Quote:
what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts.


OK, you got me lost here. Why would any one need more than 1 account with 3 characters provided except multiboxers?

3 characters already providing versatility for any kind of role playing. 1'st is pirate, 2'nd is business man and 3'rd is just for goofing around.

Besides buy activating 2'nd and 3'rd character training, all 3 toons can be trained up simultaneously.

Multiple accounts is really needed only to leech asteroid and ice fields dry. Purpose is obviously for selling plexes and ISK for real money. So apparently veterans are those scum bags, not noobs.

Just had funny idea, what about New Order was founded for other reasons, like now it is harder mine for veterans and prices also dropping. Or some prices have vent sky high, everyone who has a POS needs fuel.

So New Order actually wants put new miners out of business that they can fill their needs quicker and easier.

Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong. And talking something about dignity, it is fairy tale for 3 years old kids.
Dave stark
#156 - 2014-01-10 21:11:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Erro Fenn wrote:
Quote:
what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts.


OK, you got me lost here. Why would any one need more than 1 account with 3 characters provided except multiboxers?

3 characters already providing versatility for any kind of role playing. 1'st is pirate, 2'nd is business man and 3'rd is just for goofing around.

Besides buy activating 2'nd and 3'rd character training, all 3 toons can be trained up simultaneously.

Multiple accounts is really needed only to leech asteroid and ice fields dry. Purpose is obviously for selling plexes and ISK for real money. So apparently veterans are those scum bags, not noobs.

Just had funny idea, what about New Order was founded for other reasons, like now it is harder mine for veterans and prices also dropping. Or some prices have vent sky high, everyone who has a POS needs fuel.

So New Order actually wants put new miners out of business that they can fill their needs quicker and easier.

Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong. And talking something about dignity, it is fairy tale for 3 years old kids.


you heard it here first; all pilots with more than 1 account do nothing but mine ice and RMT.
you're a terrible troll.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#157 - 2014-01-10 21:12:45 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:
Quote:
what about them? nothing is stopping them opening more accounts.


OK, you got me lost here. Why would any one need more than 1 account with 3 characters provided except multiboxers?

3 characters already providing versatility for any kind of role playing. 1'st is pirate, 2'nd is business man and 3'rd is just for goofing around.

Besides buy activating 2'nd and 3'rd character training, all 3 toons can be trained up simultaneously.

Multiple accounts is really needed only to leech asteroid and ice fields dry. Purpose is obviously for selling plexes and ISK for real money. So apparently veterans are those scum bags, not noobs.

Just had funny idea, what about New Order was founded for other reasons, like now it is harder mine for veterans and prices also dropping. Or some prices have vent sky high, everyone who has a POS needs fuel.

So New Order actually wants put new miners out of business that they can fill their needs quicker and easier.

Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong. And talking something about dignity, it is fairy tale for 3 years old kids.


WTF?

Dude, multiple accounts are extremely useful for MUCH more than wasting time MINING.

Hunting a mission runner? Scanning alt!
Hauling expensive ****? Built in escort/scout!
Hunting war targets? Real time intel!

Boosters!
Haulers!

The list goes on... seriously.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Zircon Dasher
#158 - 2014-01-10 21:13:55 UTC
Erro Fenn wrote:


Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong.


Not wrong at all.


BUT


Where you see this as a problem, others see it as selling point.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#159 - 2014-01-10 21:16:28 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Erro Fenn wrote:


Entire community is corrupt inside out, please tell me I'm wrong.


Not wrong at all.


BUT


Where you see this as a problem, others see it as selling point.


Fine buy me.
Erro Fenn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#160 - 2014-01-10 21:21:41 UTC
Quote:
WTF?

Dude, multiple accounts are extremely useful for MUCH more than wasting time MINING.

Hunting a mission runner? Scanning alt!
Hauling expensive ****? Built in escort/scout!
Hunting war targets? Real time intel!

Boosters!
Haulers!

The list goes on... seriously.


Perhaps one day, thanks for advise.