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Torsnk
Mustang Capital
#1 - 2014-01-10 15:46:59 UTC
I sent this email to customer support, but they said they couldn't handle it and suggested that I post on the fourms for Dev Feedback. Here I go:

Recently (on the 31st of December) I was running a mission in a Marauder with a Bastion Module active. The Tranquility server went down due to a DDoS attack (explained in greater detail at this link http://themittani.com/news/eve-online-suffers-ddos-attack ). When I was able to log back on, I was in a Pod and the kill log was due to mission rats. I imagine this was due to the fact that the ship tried to automatically warp out once I was disconnected, but the bastion module (which was active) prevented a warp out.

I submitted a trouble ticket (which took a week to be answered). The ship and most of its modules were restored by CCP.

Nevertheless, I think the warp-out AI for ships with a Bastion Module (or all ships) needs to be modified. From what I understand, modules automatically go offline once you are logged off and the ship tries to warp off after that. However, Bastion Modules take up to 60 seconds to go offline so I imagine the ship attempted to warp off while the bastion module was still active, and was unable to (since bastion modules prevent warping).

As such, this is what I think needs to be changed (either of these should work):

1. The ship should automatically disengage the bastion module at log off and attempt to warp only AFTER the bastion module actually goes offline.

-OR-

2. The ship should automatically disengage the bastion module at log off and REPEATEDLY try to warp off (every 5-10 seconds or so).

I think that would fix the problem.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#2 - 2014-01-10 15:51:15 UTC
Torsnk wrote:
I sent this email to customer support, but they said they couldn't handle it and suggested that I post on the fourms for Dev Feedback. Here I go:

Recently (on the 31st of December) I was running a mission in a Marauder with a Bastion Module active. The Tranquility server went down due to a DDoS attack (explained in greater detail at this link http://themittani.com/news/eve-online-suffers-ddos-attack ). When I was able to log back on, I was in a Pod and the kill log was due to mission rats. I imagine this was due to the fact that the ship tried to automatically warp out once I was disconnected, but the bastion module (which was active) prevented a warp out.

I submitted a trouble ticket (which took a week to be answered). The ship and most of its modules were restored by CCP.

Nevertheless, I think the warp-out AI for ships with a Bastion Module (or all ships) needs to be modified. From what I understand, modules automatically go offline once you are logged off and the ship tries to warp off after that. However, Bastion Modules take up to 60 seconds to go offline so I imagine the ship attempted to warp off while the bastion module was still active, and was unable to (since bastion modules prevent warping).

As such, this is what I think needs to be changed (either of these should work):

1. The ship should automatically disengage the bastion module at log off and attempt to warp only AFTER the bastion module actually goes offline.

-OR-

2. The ship should automatically disengage the bastion module at log off and REPEATEDLY try to warp off (every 5-10 seconds or so).

I think that would fix the problem.


OK.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-01-10 15:57:01 UTC
Peas are NOT food

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#4 - 2014-01-10 15:58:17 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Peas are NOT food


Eww peas. Squishy peas!

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-01-10 15:59:58 UTC
Reasonable. This should probably be moved to the Features & Ideas forum, though.

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#6 - 2014-01-10 16:01:40 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
Reasonable. This should probably be moved to the Features & Ideas forum, though.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-01-10 16:02:14 UTC
I agree with the former. When bastion mode deactivates the ship should make a single (no more) attempt to e-warp. If it can't, welp too bad.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#8 - 2014-01-10 16:02:41 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Peas are NOT food


Eww peas. Squishy peas!


Oh that reminded me of a game I invented at Xmas

Get a big tray of Ferrero Roche

Go kill pods

Each time you kill one, eat a Ferrero Roche

Try and kill as many as you can before you are sick

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#9 - 2014-01-10 16:05:50 UTC
What is to stop someone from pulling out the ethernet cable to escape destruction?

Bastion mod just started it's cycle but I'll be dead before it disengages so I'll just yoink out this Cat6 so the system warps my fiery mess away?

Sounds to me that something bad happened, you petitioned, and were reimbursed. Problem solved. No need for change.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#10 - 2014-01-10 16:08:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Peas are NOT food


Eww peas. Squishy peas!


Oh that reminded me of a game I invented at Xmas

Get a big tray of Ferrero Roche

Go kill pods

Each time you kill one, eat a Ferrero Roche

Try and kill as many as you can before you are sick
It would be one kill. I dislike Ferrero Roche.
OTOH, I could try with some scotch... Probably poison myself before long.

Kimmi Chan wrote:
Sounds to me that something bad happened, you petitioned, and were reimbursed. Problem solved. No need for change.

^^^
This.
Working as intended.
Torsnk
Mustang Capital
#11 - 2014-01-10 16:09:04 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
What is to stop someone from pulling out the ethernet cable to escape destruction?

Bastion mod just started it's cycle but I'll be dead before it disengages so I'll just yoink out this Cat6 so the system warps my fiery mess away?

Sounds to me that something bad happened, you petitioned, and were reimbursed. Problem solved. No need for change.


Did you not read the suggestion? The ship wouldn't warp out until the Bastion module deactivated. It wouldn't be any different than if you stayed logged on then tried to warp out after the bastion module went offline.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2014-01-10 16:14:56 UTC
Pretty sure this thread would be better received in Features and Ideas. Remaining in General Discussion would leave this open to all the trolls who use GD as their playground.



Yes, I am completely aware of the irony associated with this statement coming from me.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Torsnk
Mustang Capital
#13 - 2014-01-10 16:17:58 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Pretty sure this thread would be better received in Features and Ideas. Remaining in General Discussion would leave this open to all the trolls who use GD as their playground.



Thanks, I've posted it there.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-01-10 16:19:13 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Sounds to me that something bad happened, you petitioned, and were reimbursed. Problem solved. No need for change.

^^^
This.
Working as intended.

Except it shouldn't work this way.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#15 - 2014-01-10 16:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ellendras Silver
Kimmi Chan wrote:
What is to stop someone from pulling out the ethernet cable to escape destruction?

Bastion mod just started it's cycle but I'll be dead before it disengages so I'll just yoink out this Cat6 so the system warps my fiery mess away?

Sounds to me that something bad happened, you petitioned, and were reimbursed. Problem solved. No need for change.


this... same goes for triage carriers and sieged dreads so it works as intended. in this particulair case a reimbursement was in place and you got that.

try it with a loss when a player tackles you, you wont get reimbursed because the "DC" refused to warp you out

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2014-01-10 16:21:24 UTC
Torsnk wrote:


Did you not read the suggestion? The ship wouldn't warp out until the Bastion module deactivated. It wouldn't be any different than if you stayed logged on then tried to warp out after the bastion module went offline.



Does it work that way with Cynos?

Im sure this issue already exists/has been solved.

Also, if you dont like Ferreros, try Creme Eggs, or something similar

Meatballs would be fun

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-01-10 16:21:35 UTC
Posting in stealth 'look at this TMC article' thread.

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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#18 - 2014-01-10 16:22:06 UTC
Torsnk wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Pretty sure this thread would be better received in Features and Ideas. Remaining in General Discussion would leave this open to all the trolls who use GD as their playground.



Thanks, I've posted it there.


why its not an issue! it works as it should What?

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#19 - 2014-01-10 16:24:15 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Meatballs would be fun


So long as there're no peas! Peas are for mashing up and feeding to babies and old people without teeth. **** peas!

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#20 - 2014-01-10 16:25:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Peas are NOT food


Yet another fine quality Non-content adding post from Troll’s McUseless. Thank you for the lack of content as always.
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