Ships & Modules

Just thinking, and unsure if its ever come up, but why no TC/TE's for missiles.

Just throwing it out there - should we have one?

i.e. a module that gives bonus' to missile explosion velocity/radius/missile speed?

Not range increasing, because drakes with 100km HMLs or 30km HAMs would make them stupidly powerful.

Although maybe a lowslot item that helps explosion radius would be okay, since you'd have to sacrifice speed or damage to fit it on.

Not really because you loose the Triple Tank Rigs ships need to be competitive in PvP.

God those things are stupidly OP compared to the rest =/

No argument here. I've been arguing that they should have a stacking penalty for ages.

Basically they aren't in game because they aren't needed. Missiles already have way more range than turrets. In order for a Hurricane or Harbinger to approach the range of a HML Drake it sacrifices multiple mid or low slots which compete with tank or damage mods, and these ships could never sport as robust a tank as a Drake to begin with. Additionally, they need tech II ammo to do it, and while it is good, it is still a dps drop whereas that Drake is putting out it's max dps at the entire range of the missiles (less about 3km, nbd).

Pretty much the same for any other long range missile type and its comparable turret types.

If any such mods were to be introduced they would have to coincide with a flight time nerf of missiles in general. This actually is something that CCP hinted at when it was displaying concern with the Drakes predominance in numbers on the battlefields and the relative lack of tradeoff decisions about range v tank mods. Whether such is still there I rather expect CCP knows it would be in for incredible temper tantrums from the multitude of Drake addicts. Maybe the devs have become less concerned since goons are fielding welp canes accounting for its increase of numbers of late.

Basically the Drake is and always has been crack. Easy to score as a noob and makes you think you're superman in internet spaceships. No need to make decisions about damage over range, how to fly against your target, all the normal things a turret user has to consider. Any introduction of mods that you describe without a countervailing flight time nerf on heavy missiles would be making those Drakes supercrack.

This post will receive flaming, so I'll get one thing out there, yes I have a character that compromised and flies Drakes (two in fact) and have experience with cruise missiles. I know full well how easy missiles and Drakes are compared to turrets and other BCs.

1. Tracking Enhancers do what their name implies... they enhance tracking. But missiles never miss (unless you are faster than a missile).

2. Missiles in general have stupidly long ranges for their respective class and type. Torpedos can lay on some blaster-style hurt at longer ranges than blasters are capable of.

Now granted... each class of missiles does fairly crap damage against ship sizes smaller than its class ("unguided" missiles in particular)... but that's what specialty ammo is for (which I believe is getting a buff with all the other T2 ammos in the next expansion. I think. Do correct me if I'm wrong though) along with rigor and flare rigs (which, I guess, could be comparable to "tracking"... but it still isn't as it affects actual applied DPS and not range and/or ability to hit the target).

If you propose that a "Flare" or "Rigor" mod for the low-slots be made, I MIGHT be inclined to support (pilots would be forced to choose between rate of fire for quality of shots and vice versa).

1. and increase range a lot , like a lot lot +10% opt +20% falloff ,yeah if somebody as ignorant as you would say only tracking

2. loool just lool , missiles dont have any better range than guns ,
siege missile max range 20km
800mm ac 3+24km
neutron b 4.5+13km
mega pulse 15+10km
I cant see where torps outrange the guns at all , maybe it is in your dreams only
and those guns can increase their range a lot

what special ammo are you talking about? that navy missiles are better vs smaller targets than precisions

you are wrong you want to compare rigs vs modules total fail

oh and missile sniping we all know how usefull is that...

Unnecessary.

yep , you cant defend your opinion , so you just hide and cover or blob :P typical matar style
so go hide until liang +buddies arrive

HMLs already reach further than my Drake can lock. I figured that much was obvious by anyone who's ever actually flown or fit a Drake, but OK, since you've done neither, I guess explaining it is cool too.