EVE General Discussion

Oddly when you block the scammers in Dodi/Ammar/Jita it is actually quiet and all those random strange comments suddenly make sense and are part of a conversation.

Hek on the other hand never seems to get scammers, the locals are too busy posting up "Hey anyone want to duel in BCs ..." .

Bwahahahahahahaa!

Thanks! Good laugh, yo.

Not according to the numbers CCP has given us.

FTFY

Golden.
Before my time,but really excellent. I wonder if anyone tried to follow the link "www.idiotiskbuyersareus.com ..?"

Since CCP has taken the actions of Removing isk from a (illegal Transaction) which took place which I am unaware of exactly what transaction it was, there are lots of unanswered questions.

It appears I actually got an EVE, mail explaining the issue, apparently one of the transactions came from an illegal source, which is the first time in Years of having my account that any transaction I have done has came from a (RMT) source that I am aware of because this is the first time I have ever got ISK removed from my account or GM warning.

The EVE Mail, Provided no Evidence of (RMT) activity, all it said is that because I got items or currency from another character involved with "RMT" They could only conclude that I illegally used Real Money to purchase goods, but can't otherwise prove this.

Anyways because I have been playing EVE a lot I have done a lot of research on the issue, and the EVE Mail I received, and I have serious questions about the EULA that maybe someone can answer a couple of examples for me so I can possibly avoid getting more isk removed in the future.

1.) Lets take for example my Corp owns a Worm-Hole, and someone wants to buy it my corp is loosing members who no longer play so I decide to sell it I say 4 billion ISK it is yours, and someone just sends me the money directly, or has someone from their corp or from outside of the corp pay me 4 billion ISK, I pack up along with my other mates we leave and let them have it, (Just an example.)

. Now what am I supposed to do if a GM comes to me 3 days later removes my ISK without warning, and without telling me the transaction is from an illegal source, how am I supposed to know that the currency/items I am getting is illegally obtained by Bots, Cheaters, or hackers from compromised accounts, I have had accounts hacked in other games before and would never knowingly support such activity or accept such.

2.) Lets take for example the EULA 6b. I am confused about it based on their EULA, I am not allowed to pay any type of (Real Money, or in my case USD.) For goods.

.The EULA does not say that a friend cant send me 20 billion ISK, and that the GM may remove it from my account.

. It also doesn't say that I am not allowed to exchange currency between games of course its not supported by EVE but take for example I played World OF warcraft for 20 hours this week, and someone agrees to give me 500 million isk for 1000 wow gold, this under their EULA if I understand it would be totally legit.

In general the EULA is very specific about Real Money Trades meaning if I never paid (Real Money) then the trade is Legit even if the goods come from an (illegal Source.) Its not my Job to know where the ISK comes from or run back-ground checks on every single person.

I am not really debating a suspension, but I would Love to understand, and know how the heck I am supposed to know where every transaction I do in EVE is Legit or not there are some circumstances which EVE can improperly punish players when they don't know why a person has done a trade, or things like WH selling where the player doesn't give items only gets items.

*Snip* Please refrain from posting GM correspondence. ISD Ezwal.

As I said I would never Do a transaction with someone I knew was involved with types of illegal activity's let alone account hacking, or botting, this is one of the trades out of many trades I have made during my EVE time which has been removed by a GM, and I have had my EVE account in good standing for years, perhaps I just did business with the wrong group of people, but besides this point, I would like to point out some suggestions and opinions to improve (EVE) based on what I read here.


. Preventing Account Hacking, as CCP states account hacking is a common thing in online MMO's I have been victim of account hacks before, but it would be great if CCP could add a feature called (IP Verification) similar to what (Guild Wars 2) has basically when a person logs in from a (New IP Address) they are required to go to their email and click a link to verify its them meaning that any account compromise would mean that a person would have to have access to the victims Email as well, this could be fixed so that a person can enable or disable this feature through account management, but help prevent illegal hijackings.

. It is indeed CCP's responsibility to prevent the market from being flooded by illegal bot goods, so when it comes to illegal resources such as botting this is where CCP needs to step in and ban the botters before they can do harm to the economy, I know a botter I have seen for months running in high-sec mining all the time, but nothing ever gets done about them. In fact people I know enjoy blowing up his ships constantly aka ganking.

Also on another Topic, Yes Plex is a form of (RMT) but the only thing wrong with the plex system is that each (plex) costs $19 USD, A Subscription costs $15 USD, and a Billion ISK based on a google search costs around $19 USD, I never buy ISK but after the search this is what I come up with. And Plex themselves sell for 600 Million ISK and you get the picture. The best way I prefer to pay for multiple accounts when it comes to this is Mining to buy Plex with the Billions of ISK I make because it over-all costs less than paying $19 per plex which is slightly jacked up if it were me I would lower (Plex) to around the same costs as a subscription and offer discounts on multi-plex bundles. (GW2) has actually Combat Gold Selling by doing this with the Gems, and currency exchange via the Cash Shop so a lot of players actually pay the game company for gems rather than engage in illegal RMT.

17+ hours no response yet, hopefully they fix or I quit in 24 days.

With a negative balance I think he has to jettison the stuff in space just to transfer it.

That said, I'm not sure this isn't an elaborate troll. Random capitalization, commas inserted for fun and goofy continued replies.

Stupid people do stupid things and write... stupidly?

Avoid the scammers
Live in a wormhole

I thought this as well, but besides in station trading you could put up a WTB contract to him. That way you would not have to even be in the same station with him.

edit: sheesh. no comment. Quafee, must get Quafee