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Highsec PvP-ers needed for foreverwar against Goons

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Efraya
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#21 - 2014-01-09 16:18:17 UTC
Make an alliance yourself.

Fund the wardec from your alliance onto the CFC entities.

You insta accept the corps that apply.

Done.

Why are you making a forum post about this?

You could do it on an alt....

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-01-09 16:35:08 UTC
Efraya wrote:
Make an alliance yourself.
Fund the wardec from your alliance onto the CFC entities.
You insta accept the corps that apply.
Done.
Why are you making a forum post about this?

You could do it on an alt....


But why would anyone join an alliance ran by an alt of a trader. What I'm paying the extra for is a brand. A name that attract highsec PvP-ers and wannabees.

Mean Harri wrote:

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers


If it's irrelevant, why are you posting? Why do you try to push me into N3 instead?
Let me explain why Goons are posting one after the other "we don't care": because N3 is hitting the front armor of the Goons. N3 fleet is clashing with well lead, organized Goon fleets.

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. The odd Goon who went to shop. Miniluv who farm freighters. The idiot who is missioning in a Golem to afford that Naglfar that Mittani commanded him to have.

I want a huge alliance, doesn't matter if 90% is a useless punk who poses no threat to any Goon. Why? Because I want Goons see war targets everywhere in local in highsec. So they either don't shop, don't haul, don't mission, don't travel, don't gank, or ignore them. But some of the war targets are Marmite and such. Ignore them and bye-bye freighter. It's like placing AFK-cloakers: most of them are AFK, but some of them are covops cynoing a hostile gang.

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Mean Harri
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-01-09 16:43:20 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Efraya wrote:
Make an alliance yourself.
Fund the wardec from your alliance onto the CFC entities.
You insta accept the corps that apply.
Done.
Why are you making a forum post about this?

You could do it on an alt....


But why would anyone join an alliance ran by an alt of a trader. What I'm paying the extra for is a brand. A name that attract highsec PvP-ers and wannabees.

Mean Harri wrote:

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers


If it's irrelevant, why are you posting? Why do you try to push me into N3 instead?
Let me explain why Goons are posting one after the other "we don't care": because N3 is hitting the front armor of the Goons. N3 fleet is clashing with well lead, organized Goon fleets.

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. The odd Goon who went to shop. Miniluv who farm freighters. The idiot who is missioning in a Golem to afford that Naglfar that Mittani commanded him to have.

I want a huge alliance, doesn't matter if 90% is a useless punk who poses no threat to any Goon. Why? Because I want Goons see war targets everywhere in local in highsec. So they either don't shop, don't haul, don't mission, don't travel, don't gank, or ignore them. But some of the war targets are Marmite and such. Ignore them and bye-bye freighter. It's like placing AFK-cloakers: most of them are AFK, but some of them are covops cynoing a hostile gang.



Good luck. I'm just going to continue lol'ing at this based on a very well reasoned notion that you just don't get "it"
Cale Nolen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-01-09 16:47:36 UTC
Prob best donating your bill a week to TEST
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#25 - 2014-01-09 16:49:39 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs.
You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers).

And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most.

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Kane Therios
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-01-09 16:57:29 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Let me explain why Goons are posting one after the other "we don't care"


I'm not a goon and I think you're dumb.
Powers Sa
#27 - 2014-01-09 17:00:11 UTC
Mean Harri wrote:


^^ This^^

To expand briefly.

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers

Even people that don't like us think you're dumb Gevlon. This is just a random #tweetfleet dude who hangs out in npc null sec pointing it out.
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. The odd Goon who went to shop. Miniluv who farm freighters. The idiot who is missioning in a Golem to afford that Naglfar that Mittani commanded him to have.

Fact: we kill more t1 haulers than The Marmite Collective in high sec.
Fact: There is a massive flaw in your POCO plan.
Fact: The only thing stopping miniluv from banking/ganking freighters is laziness.
Fact: People don't mission run to buy golems, they rat in fountain or delve for that.

If you could miss the point any further, then you'd be living on the face of the sun instead of the planet earth.

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#28 - 2014-01-09 17:03:02 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

But why would anyone join an alliance ran by an alt of a trader. What I'm paying the extra for is a brand. A name that attract highsec PvP-ers and wannabees.

.



Then use your main Lol

If you want a "celebrity", then approach one directly.

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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-01-09 17:08:07 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs.
You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers).

And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most.

I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.

To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.

And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#30 - 2014-01-09 17:13:38 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs.
You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers).

And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most.

I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.

To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.

And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.
I don't think there really is any intent, and that's why his reasoning changes every 2 seconds. First it was to get high sec people to be bale to pvp, then it was distraction from the war, then to mask Marmite, and now to slice their underbelly by cutting off highsec operations. It's all nonsense.

Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-01-09 17:17:23 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:


Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.


Everyone who posted in this thread cared that I exist.

Op success!

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-01-09 17:21:57 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:


...... well lead, organized Goon fleets.......



I lol'd

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Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-01-09 17:24:57 UTC
If a null sec alliance is doing industry related things in high sec, they do it on alts. If they aren't, they're either being really lazy or they want someone to war dec and attack them. I'm sure members of Goonswarm would be absolutely gleeful if you could pull together a ragtag group of high sec people, stick them in a fleet, and try to grind POCOs with them.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-01-09 17:25:20 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:


Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.

Even if that were true, who cares?

If he manages to get this going and bring more pewpew to hi-sec, that's a win in my book.
Powers Sa
#35 - 2014-01-09 17:36:30 UTC
Bagehi wrote:
If a null sec alliance is doing industry related things in high sec, they do it on alts. If they aren't, they're either being really lazy or they want someone to war dec and attack them. I'm sure members of Goonswarm would be absolutely gleeful if you could pull together a ragtag group of high sec people, stick them in a fleet, and try to grind POCOs with them.

Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown.

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-01-09 17:49:36 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:

Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown.


You have a hangar full of T2 logi, T3 cruisers and battleships while the little bees are grinding structures in bombless bombers?!

I'm shocked over the obvious neglect of the well-beeing of the grunt bees.

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Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-01-09 17:56:01 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:

If he manages to get this going and bring more pewpew to hi-sec, that's a win in my book.


The flaw in his reasoning here is thinking there are people in hi-sec desperate for fights who aren't getting them. Fights are easy to come by, and anyone capable and willing already has access to them readily. Most people are in hi-sec to avoid fights either because they're an alt of a PVP oriented account, or because they're incapable.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#38 - 2014-01-09 17:56:50 UTC
Can you write your inevitable wall of text blaming everyone else for the failure of this now, so I don't have to check back later for the comedy?

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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2014-01-09 18:04:04 UTC
I see gevlon is so starved for relevance he has fallen back on the old standby of "the goons insulting me means they are scared, not that I've done something so stupid that everyone is passing around the link and laughing".

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2014-01-09 18:11:55 UTC
Mister Gevlon,

The more people coming here trying to nitpick on the message/messenger the more I believe this could actually work.

Some advice if you allow me to give it;

I'd stop posting about your plan, cloak yourself in mystery and try to connect to a couple of PVP guys willing to invest time in the project, gather intel on your target and their alts, maybe even talk with groups like CODE and others.

Once you have something concrete, pick a date, make noise about that date and start your project with a big bang.

For instance, there are many mercs in hisec. If you could combine all these merc groups for a prolonged attack on goon pocos you could hurt their morale (make sure to invite groups like PIRAT/Dark Homeworld, they - Like Marmites - have some experience welping goons http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20652088)

If you could organise a month of mercs bashing goons left and right, your new alliance could profit from that to get a nice foothold. Take over all their pocos and wait for the goonies to wardec you to take it all back. If they do, open the war for allies and watch them squirm :)

Just some thoughts.

D.

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