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The Need for Big Bloc Advantages: Bubbles Disrupt Cloak Mechanics

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-01-09 05:50:07 UTC
Seriously though, if you caught the cloaky Tengu that pilot was either unlucky or he ****** up.
The blockade runner wasn't unlucky and he did everything right.

Besides, if there were actually no chance of the BR making it through your gatecamp alive, he could also cloak and MWD back to gate and I guarantee you he'd have probably survived that.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-01-09 05:53:53 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
I don't really see the point of adding a FORCED miss-chance into gate camping.

I partake in two of the most popular PVP activities,

Suicide Ganking
Gate Camping

And that is generally all I have time for, the rest of the so called "PVP" is just too time intensive.

...Gate camping isn't time intensive?


I assign drones and can "engage" using my iPhone from across the room.

Thank You Obama!
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-01-09 06:03:30 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
I don't really see the point of adding a FORCED miss-chance into gate camping.

I partake in two of the most popular PVP activities,

Suicide Ganking
Gate Camping

And that is generally all I have time for, the rest of the so called "PVP" is just too time intensive.

...Gate camping isn't time intensive?


Think of all the things you can do while you wait at the gate with 99 friends. You are having way too much of a good time with them for it to be seen as intensive. You are having fun man.
Rastafarian God
#24 - 2014-01-09 06:47:25 UTC
You had that many people and you didnt bother to have at least a couple of instalock HICS?

Also, why would you send interceptors to the area he cloaked. Its not like he was doing the old T1 hauler trick where you cloak, align, uncloak, then warp. A crane warps cloaked and aligns fast as hell. He was off grid before you even tried to find him.

Also... this has to be a fake post anyway.

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
#25 - 2014-01-09 07:08:58 UTC
Not sure if this is a troll post or what, so two words for you.

Smart Bombs.
Apocryphal Noise
Close Encounters of the EVE Kind
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2014-01-09 07:44:31 UTC
yea ******* blockade runners running blockades, the nerve!


And let me guess, your "creative use of game mechanics" was dumping cans around the gate. yea, real original.

















It's ok man, just admit you got outplayed.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#27 - 2014-01-09 08:37:42 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
So you have a gate camp. Or, in other words, a blockade.

And a blockade runner managed to slip past you.

I fail to see the issue here.



This guy, is amazing.

Here, have several thousand internets. Big smile

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Annathalia Blood
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-01-09 09:13:10 UTC
I guess answer how many 2.5km spheres you need to fill ~12km sphere will help you to hunt those filthy blockade runners
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-01-09 09:17:39 UTC
Wow, because of one guy you cry for a change. Drop your pants while I get that microscope...

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#30 - 2014-01-09 09:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
Skill Training Online wrote:


It is time CCP stoped catering to minoritiy "QQ I have no friends" palyers and finally started giving advantages to larger organizations. EVE lives and dies on the income from Power blocs there is no need to coddle the "solo, small gang" player. 0.0 is a place for Player-Driven Empires, not pitiful squatters.



(a) a mobile depot will not -store- a ship so you can reship to something combatish if you do run a blockade with a blockade runner.

(b) the residents can reship immediately after any loss, and have the ability to reship before engaging to a suitable counter.
having sov gives you docking rights, and gives you many days protection for an infinite pile of ships. In some cases you can reship and rejoin a combat action before it even finishes.

A squatter has to fight with whatever horse he flew in on, and when they lose, they ride the pod express home. Or if you are cruel (or they foolishly warp off), they get the all stations train.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#31 - 2014-01-09 10:03:18 UTC
Since the server ticks every second, interceptors are not the best choice to uncloak things, because it is quite hard to manage the speed to quickly join the right area without going too fast inside it.

So, protip, once you start trying to decloak people, limit yourself to 2km/sec

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-01-09 10:04:19 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
I don't really see the point of adding a FORCED miss-chance into gate camping.

I partake in two of the most popular PVP activities,

Suicide Ganking
Gate Camping

And that is generally all I have time for, the rest of the so called "PVP" is just too time intensive.

...Gate camping isn't time intensive?


I assign drones and can "engage" using my iPhone from across the room.

Lol

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#33 - 2014-01-09 10:45:46 UTC
lol
Heddy Lamarr
New Eden Fedo Lovers Society
#34 - 2014-01-09 11:10:44 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
This is not a rage post ----------> RAGE - LIKE TEXT....etc


Wow, who would have thought that a big brave gate camper could cry such a tragic river of tears? Makes some carebears look positively brave!

Next time bring 200 ships or even a thousand. That should even the odds enough to dry those tears you poor widdle thing.
Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-01-09 11:22:54 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
I don't really see the point of adding a FORCED miss-chance into gate camping.

I partake in two of the most popular PVP activities,

Suicide Ganking
Gate Camping

And that is generally all I have time for, the rest of the so called "PVP" is just too time intensive.

...Gate camping isn't time intensive?


I assign drones and can "engage" using my iPhone from across the room.


AFK gate camper wants game mechanic changed to guarantee himself 100% success rate?

Really?

OK. But only if AFK miners and haulers in hisec get guaranteed immunity from suicide gankers.

Yes, your argument makes about as much sense as that.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#36 - 2014-01-09 11:28:37 UTC
7/10

I think the 100% success rate gave it away, otherwise I'd have given 10/10
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#37 - 2014-01-09 11:29:41 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
We had a 100% catch rate even managing to kill a would-be cloaky tengu due to some creative gameplay mechanics.
So you're saying that gate camping should be massively nerfed and that your little group should probably be subject to some GM scrutiny?

Sounds about right.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#38 - 2014-01-09 11:53:01 UTC
A fleet that size and your wasting your time gate camping?

One could almost believe you would rather go for sure, easy and almost zero risk kills than take the time, effort and chance of looking for an interesting and challenging fight.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#39 - 2014-01-09 12:03:57 UTC
Obvious troll is obvious, but kudos for making up the shittiest gatecamp ever!
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#40 - 2014-01-09 12:41:30 UTC

Surface area of a sphere = 4*pi*r^2
Area of a circle = pi*r^2

Challenge: Paste as many of those decloaking circles as you can around the sphere people will land in when they jump the gate.

Measure the radius of the bounding sphere of the gate, add 15km for the landing distance from that sphere, write that number down and call it Rg.

Figure a ship with drones out can reliably cover a ~4km radius circle for decloaking.

Approximate Number of ships needed (Ns) = 4*pi*Rg^2 / pi*4^2

Simplifying...

Ns = Rg^2 / 4

Measure your gate, count the ships. Easy peasy.

Properly spacing your internet spaceship monkeys around the sphere is left as an exercise for the reader.

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