EVE General Discussion

Been playing eve for about half a month now, and although i do enjoy the game. The game is broken for new players. Is it worth continuing to play past the 30 days i got for 2`$? That really depends.

Problem 1, tip 1:

If your brand new to EVE, do not join a corporation! It will ruin your experience of the game. And its imo a HUGE failure on CCP's part. A design flaw, gaping and open. Especially considering the age of this game, and the irrelevance of actual money/equipemnt you use compared to SP which is really slow to gain.

Why not join a corp? Apparently a rather large base of the players in EVE are ****ers. They will wardeck corporations with alot of new players, especially if your based close to a trade hub (which you want to be when your new). And what youll do for the next i don't know how long is basically stay in base and do jackall. Or go out and die.

Problem 2, tip2:

If you get the problem over, you can go to the ass end of nowhere for a while (remain in high sec, ur new u get murdered if you go to lowsec) and mine! For the love of god, do not do missions! Youll die. Now this is a ****** upp mechanic in this game, as theres only so much a new player can do. Its missions, carry around stuff to tradehubs, and do missions.

Problem 3:

You want to be in a corp cause its more fun? You can PVE with friends/new ppl you met that seems nice, or do mining ops. Maybe your lucky and they take you to do a lvl 3 or 4 mission when you get ur new destroyer, just so you can check out whats coming later down the line. And you even get some of the cash garnered. Do you like to trade? Use the market and have a pretty decent cargoship to ferry goods into jita/amarr etc from far flung reaches for some profit? You wanna do missions blow upp stuff and earn standings to do the lvl 3/4 missions when you finally hit your first BC or BS?

Well then you have a problem. You either stay the **** away from corporations. Or you skill upp in mining. Thats what in my experience EVE is to new players. No wonder their playerbase grows so ******* slowly. The most fun parts of the game gets ruined pretty fast because the EVE playerbase apparantly is full off aholes (met alot of friendly folks as well offc. Just mad at how it works). PVP btw is something you can just forget about for 3-4 months at least.




So my gripe is simple. There should be restrictions, EVEN when your at war with another corp to what you can attack. Say you are protected at all times in high-sec untill you reach at least between 2 and 5 million SP unless you activly waiver that protection (still ****** if you go low sec, but give new players a huge ******* sign that says whatll happen to you if you go there). This will allow new players to enjoy the BEST about eve to start with, and at least give them a chance to fight back when thyere not protected anymore. Or is it the developers intention that using corps is a bad ******* thing, and you should just stay alone untill you can fully fit a t2 pvp ship, with lvl 5 on everything that matters? In that case your doing a poor job about promoting this game of yours for new players. Or is it that really all you want new players to do is mine, somewhere far away from everything?



So my situation. Were @ our 2nd extention at war with one pvp corp, and another has just declared as well. Our corp has some "old" players. And ALOT of new ones, that really can't play the game almost. Quite a few, nice ppl have left corp now just to get away from it so they can play eve. And alot of us just stay in station doing jack all, and just not playing eve. How many will just say **** it and not play eve anymore? Probably a few.

I got really lucky early, earned a good amount of cash, got some planets etc. Besides some planet management, ive put EVERYTHING into SP for PVE missions. And i did some trading/moving of goods. Its what i enjoy doing (mining sucked to do). Now with the second alliance thats declared war with us (the first wasnt that active. But murdered any miners mining in our 1st HQ system, then what we moved to, and what we moved to after that (further and further away from everything). The second alliance uses agents apparently, not that im entirely sure how the hell that works, from what i gathered from other corp mates i can't do missions anymore. Btw, i did my missions on the other side of the fracking galaxy from where this new corp operates. And i died. And now for as long as they keep the war going my EVE experience will be once a day edit skill que, renew planet cycle. Which takes 1 minute. Do i wanna pay 15$ a month to play 1 minute a day? Nope not a chance in hell. Leaving corp won't even help. So i cross my fingers that they will end the wars before sub runs out in 15 days time. And we dont get a new one for a good ******* while. Because i REALLY liked EVE when i could actually play this game (beeing in a corp is a must for it to be fun imo), now its just pissing money for maybe someday be able to play the game.

With the proper guidance, you would not have the same opinion.

Most of the things you complain about not being able to do are not related to the SPs you have but your knowledge of the mechanics of the game and your understanding of the strategy involved with dealing with other players.

Look harder for a good corp, it will make the difference.

This is not a swimming lessons type of game, its a throw you in the pool and see if you sink or swim type of game. That makes it very challenging and that's why people stick around.

My other comment is you seem fixated on the content you are provided. This game is about creating your own content by understanding the content that is provided and learning how to use it to create your own. The result is hilarious fun or very large profits as well as devastating loss. It's all fun even being outsmarted by an older player and learning from the experience to try to turn the tables in the next encounter, consensual or not.

Sorry, I didn't realise we weren't allowed to grief rookie pilots on the forum.

Ok so im wrong with the thing they can track you through agents? Or that they camp your HQ? I quickly went away from HQ, and did missions in areas far **** away from everything with the first corp that went to war. Had local upp in its own window and all that. And i escaped several attempts to kill me then. But even if i escape the attempt to kill me. Im still unable to play the game.

Now the new corp activly seek out the new players in our corp doing missions, no matter where they are in gangs of 3-4 players. And the SP does have alot to say. I have no hope of outfitting any ship that can take any of them on. Most of the ones in corp cannot do that. Its mainly PVE which is what i found i liked the most about EVE. And the rest is mining. If you actually have a solution id love to hear it. Because so far as ive found out, with my current SP level, what i can do is mine somewhat safe.

Griefing ?
Your didn't grief her at all by telling her to not advise new players to stay in NPC corps and go mining, SHE is the new gal here.
It's not even griefing it's ridiculous.

You're ridiculous. I don't care if she's new, her advice is awful.

I don't care that you don't care, you think a new player will have anything else than awfully wrong ideas about the game ?

What are you, 5 years old ?

If you need a good starting corp try EVE University or Brave Newbies, both great corps.

Honestly, the fact that people can be really cutthroat in this game is what drew me into it in the first place.

Okay, how about this?

Hey OP, if you don't know what you're talking about, then shut the **** up.

Is that better for you, Deunan?

Get rid of Hi-Sec get rid of ppls illusions they should be safe