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New player and I am not happy. Am I missing something?

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Paulus Attredies
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-01-09 00:40:28 UTC
I am not bashing this game. I just feel like I am missing something.

I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. I am just training skills. The last time I did anything game related was doing the tutorials. Then I did about a week of killing space pirates. Then I bought a PLEX because, I absolutely loathe boring and repetitive quests/missions. The Space pirate missions are just awful after a few days. Am I missing something?

Now I am just lost training skills endlessly...

I supremely enjoy PVP. The reason I bought this game was because of some of the awesome and thrilling large scale battles between warring corporations. So I thought, "Ok I will apply to all the PVP corps using the in game corporation matcher thingy what ever". I got one quick response. This guy was insanely suspicious of everything. He was absolutely dumb founded. He was in shock and awe asking me how I found about this corp. After a long and I thought fruitful conversation about many different things, I asked him if I could join. I never got a response... He just AFK'ed and I never heard from him again. Am I missing something?

So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something?

I soon realized that the corporation recruiter/application tool is just awful. So I took it upon myself to find corps via the internet. Every corporation worth joining is:

A. unreachable
B. password protected
C. Requires 3-6 months of straight skill point training

or

D. a combination of both (99% are D)

Am I missing something?

Honestly. I am hammering this out, but am I missing something? Do I really have to wait this long and dig this hard to get into a community I can relate too?

Trying very hard here to get this game, but at the moment my impression is: pay money to play the game so I... don't play the game?... What?

Someone help me... I really like what this game stands for, but at the moment... I see no reason to carry on with the subscription. I am not paying money for a game I do not play.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2014-01-09 00:46:43 UTC
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So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something?


Oh hey, I found your problem

That's not CONCORD, that's the faction navy, and it's

a) Much, much more limited than CONCORD and

b) Only does anything in the hostile factions' home space. So, you could just as easily have moved your stuff to where your corp actually based out of.

c) you can pretty much move around freely in hostile factions' space as long as you're in a fast-aligning ship.

Funny thing is, if you had asked your corp rather than quit immediately you probably would've realized all of these things and been fine.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#3 - 2014-01-09 00:47:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Paulus Attredies wrote:
I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!

Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore...

...
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-09 00:48:38 UTC
"I want to join a PvP corp"
Joins one, then leaves.
Joins a FW one, then leaves.

How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . .

It's called patients, you need it to play this game.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-01-09 00:50:01 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Paulus Attredies wrote:
I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!

Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore...


Get out of high sec, it helps ;)

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Vageena Clatoris
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-01-09 00:53:27 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Paulus Attredies wrote:
I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!

Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore...


Get out of high sec, it helps ;)


Some of us want to but its not easy :P
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-01-09 00:55:31 UTC
Dont worry about faction navy.. even if you are in something that doesnt align quick.. they normally web you into warp at any rate.

Meet up with your new crew and do some pewpew.. if you are not happy with them look at other new player friendly corperations..
RvB are popular as well as Brave Newbies
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#8 - 2014-01-09 01:09:40 UTC
After spending 7 years in EvE with average x hours per day with total 540+ days online im totaly exousted from game mechanic and lack of goals or instant fun, there is a lot to do hovewer everythings or goals take monts years etc, here no instant fun , buying thing or fiting ship somtime take like 30min long etc, everey single aspect is agains instant fun and in general boring.

Like other guy from other topic about skiling, i have to say same thing, after spending x years here i fell guilty to not training my skills....

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#9 - 2014-01-09 01:10:04 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Paulus Attredies wrote:
I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!

Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore...


Get out of high sec, it helps ;)

If my memory serves me right, last summer I spent a few months in a Megathron...

Sorry about Fountain...

...
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#10 - 2014-01-09 01:20:39 UTC
RvB or Eve Uni

Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#11 - 2014-01-09 01:23:34 UTC
AFK Hauler wrote:
RvB or Eve Uni

Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful.



I was about to suggest RvB to OP...

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2014-01-09 01:24:54 UTC
If youre gonna stay in highsec, youre gonna have a bad time.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Paulus Attredies
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-01-09 01:26:28 UTC
Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp.

I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities.

I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future.

I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed.

If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-01-09 01:28:38 UTC
Sounds like you joined a Faction War Corp who are fighting for the opposite side to where you were currently docked :D You basically accidently signed up with the enemy of your current region.


Note that older established corps and alliances will be suspicious because a lot of supposedly "new players" applying are actually alt characters of the enemy out to do sabotage and spy, the EVE term for this is awoxxing.

HOWEVER, on the bright side, there are a lot of new player friendly corps around including Eve Uni, RvB and BNI just to name a few of the larger ones. Stick with it.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#15 - 2014-01-09 01:29:19 UTC
I usually just take a knife and throw it across the room at a wall covered in scraps of meaningless EvE goals, to determine what a short term goal is.

Right now, the short term goal is 5000 shitpoasts in a three month period.

I am on my way. Oh yes Lawdy, I am on my way.

Big smile

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#16 - 2014-01-09 01:31:21 UTC
Paulus Attredies wrote:
Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp.

I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities.

I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future.

I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed.

If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post.



Feel free to post your success as well.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#17 - 2014-01-09 02:28:12 UTC
Try wormholes. They're by far the best small to midsized group PvE and PvP content.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#18 - 2014-01-09 02:32:27 UTC
This game isn't for you.

Oh god.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#19 - 2014-01-09 02:34:32 UTC
Copy pasting from another thread.

Quote:
I want to join a good corporation but they all have "skillpoint requirements." What can I do?

Corporations that have "skillpoint requirements" are a using a semi-false metric. The belief is that once you have XX amount of skillpoints you are old enough to have decent "experience" in EVE... such that you do not need to be taught the bare basics... that you can operate without having to be told what to do or where.

What you can do to counter this is to...
- Learn what the basic terminology is...
- Learn how to fiddle with your overview...
- Know what ships are generally good and bad at...
- And, most importantly, SHOW THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN MORE.

Most corps will be flexible about their "restrictions" if you directly talk with someone in it and show that you are enthusiastic and intelligent. Those that aren't... they are bad corps and you don't want to join them anyways.

tldr; the SP restrictions are there to preemptively weed out the "general rabble" from applying (and it's working OP *hint* *hint*).
Don't be one of the "general rabble." Show that you CAN be part of their "cool kids club."

How did you Veterans start?
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#20 - 2014-01-09 02:37:43 UTC
RvB...do eet.
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