Ships & Modules

I live for my Ishkur and I love assault frigates. You get to have cruiser-levels of DPS with some fits in a frigate-sized hull. What's not to love? Well, apparently a lot since we barely see AFs fielded anymore.

The MWD bonus AFs got a long time ago was a "questionable" buff that didn't really help the AF's case much, and the latest buffs to interceptors have made the entire AF class obsolete in my opinion. In null sec, where the AF MWD boost would actually be helpful, they are completely pointless to bring when you can just fly a bubble-immune, fast-warping interceptor. In low sec, the AF's MWD boost is a lot less important, and I again find the AF to be a little underwhelming.

Can we maybe see a little love and rebalancing in the way of AFs? I would really love to see them used more, but they need to be clearly made worth using over other options for some specific contexts. Right now, everything an AF can do an Inty can do better it seems.

Edit: Conversely, have Intys been buffed too much, necessitating a nerf?

0/10. AF mas is too damn high.

Sure, I can contribute. This belongs in Features and Ideas; since we're being prickly.

I also thought the rebalance for AF was underwhelming. More damage or tank would be nice... but difficult to balance... because if it does too much more damage than why fly a T1 cruiser?


Second thought: The ships that are doing very well in tiericide are the ones that have a clearly defined role. EW frigs are awesome at whatever their bonuses are, the logi frigs - very helpful. The trouble is T2 is supposed to be more specialized. Specialized at tank/fighting means that if we increase the bonuses we have to increase the drawbacks.... having a frig with cruiser align time or warp-speed would be brutal. Same with sig radius. Perhaps a comprimise by having low sensor strength?

Every time I read this, I just see "Super Running Away Power!" Not really all that bad. I know EVE players have a 'thing' about forcing other people to play their way, but there is plenty of precedent for CCP giving the target the advantage as well. New Inty's just reinforce that.

AF have crazy resists so they can be hard to pop. You can even do level IV PvE missions in an assault frigate, try that in an interceptor.

BTW whats with this whole "I demand to be able to pop everything I see without effort just for the lolz so pleas nerf XXXX" trend lately?

AF's go so slow the MWD sig reduction bonus is useless compared to an inty doing 5kms. Something like a crow that can apply damage at 60km is just a bit over the top.

My Crow has 2 sensor damps and orbits cruisers for 15 minutes while evading drones and tickling them to death with 75dps. I hate my Crow

1. The 0/10 refers to the bad partial troll attempt by the OP.

2. The basic problem with AF's is that their mass is higher than those of T1 combat and assault frigates and higher than (assault) cruisers compared to their relative MWD's. This means that their ability to (dis)engage is very poor compared to lots of other ship classes.

AFs rule when you have a bunch of them, they're also decent in a mixed gang. Its true that solo their enormous mass and reasonably high cost makes them undesirable compared to a t1 cruiser. The MWD bonus they have is very good, as it makes them more survivable at doing what they do best, which is burning towards a target and killing it.