Wormholes

At least the bigger the group the harder to maintan and higher chance of shattering into smaller entities.

IM more like a george zimmerman level celebrity. Everyone knows who I am and usually recognizes me in local... but its not really in a good way lol.



THats why you should just get a massive corp leading the charge...

Alliance? Absolutely. As I stated many times, it's not the groups size per se but how they choose to wield their power. A large group willing to not blob will get fights more often and have less complaints about "no fights." That is my point.

I'm also NOT complaining, I'm offering a solution to those who constantly are. My stance is the problem lies not with wormhole space, but with how we resonsibly or irresponsibly wield power.

Brilliant smart-arsed and pointless comment as always Jack. Perhaps, for once, you could be constructive and tell me what point you think i missed.

The OP states that this thread is a result of people asking for more conflict drivers. I am one of those people so i felt i should share my opinion.

If you believe the OP is right and we should all arrange fights and keep our numbers to a minimum, then you fail to understand basic wormhole PVP and human nature... And if you think the answer to more fights is for people not to blob the upstart corps in the vein hope that they will one day grow to be a competitor, you're deluded.

let me try spell it out one last time.
it isnt about arranged fights or keeping numbers small or anything game related. It's about mentality and attitude.
you, and others, keep saying there's no conflict in WHs, no reason to fight. well, youre wrong.
i can't make is any clearer for you. youre wrong, because people like me and the op and others keep telling you that there are conflict drivers, that there are reasons to fight and that WHs are just fine the way they are.

if you dont have any drive to pvp in WHs then why are you living in WHs? and i'm being serious with this question.
why live in space you dont like and clearly dont enjoy being in?
If i hated WHs as much as you clearly do I would have moved out years ago and gone done something else.

i think you really need to consider if you want to be here. if not, that's fine. wspace is definitely NOT for everyone, im not saying it is, but it provides a very unique gaming environment that you seem very eager to make closer to kspace.
people like you saying there's no reason to do anything in Whs or people like herrbert saying scanning is boring and that WHs should be anoms doesnt help wspace at all.
the best case scenario is people just ignore you, the worst is that CCP listen to you and ruin Whs for those of us who actually like them.

PS: hoping that smaller corps one day 'grow up to be a competitor' is exactly the wrong attitude im talking about. Ive met many really good small corps and likewise many really awful large corps. size has very little to do with quality and in WHs space, size past a certain point only adds chaff.

How old are you Jack? You seem to fail to understand that different people have different desires and motivations. I once knew a guy that thought that he was the only real person and we were all figments of his imagination... but i digress...

Saying "you're wrong because we have different play-styles and i don't agree with yours" is not an argument and you should save your time and mine and just not reply to my posts.

Most of what i see on your corps killboard are people being ganked in a C2 and that's fine. I lived in a C2 as part of a smaller corp and it was far more entertaining than living in a C5/C6. To me that would indicate that there is a problem with C5/C6 wormholes... And if you disagree, why did you home to a system with a low class static?

For your information, i live in wormhole space because it used to feel like the least broken region in the game but now i've seen and done everything and i'm bored.

The best case scenario is you STFU and continue playing the game the way you do and CCP start to add more content to wormholes which provid you with new ways to play in addition. The worst case scenarios is that CCP listen to people like you who say wormhole are 100% perfect and fail to iterate on wormholes for so long that it ends up becoming like the old low sec wastelands.

If you are going to reply answer me this or don't bother replying at all: Why are you so against improvements to wormhole space or more reasons to fight?

Do you really have no doubts that CCP won't mess up if they make changes or add new content to WH's?

What we have in WH's now is more by luck than judgement on CCP's part - it was only intended as a place for exploration, it is the player base that made WH's a new way of life - that was never forseen by CCP.

Depends whether you're a cup half full or half empty kind of guy, but I'd rather keep what we have now, than gamble that CCP would add any meaningful new content without messing something else up whilst doing so.

That is a completely fair point and if i'm honest, no, i don't have that faith in CCP.

However, i believe there are things CCP could do to make wormholes feel more alive and exciting but that's for another thread.

Where wormholes are concerned, i'm definitely a "glass half full" guy and i would like CCP to fill my wormhole class to the top.

Oh the rightious oh you delighted,
Oh you ccp why did you leave the holes like you did,
why did you make pos fuel easier?
why did you gave us the corp bookmarks?
why did you steal our boosting subsystems and gave us command ships on steroids?
why did you make it possible to refit a probe launcher via a mobile depot?
why did you move ore belts to anoms?
why did you fiddle with the wormholes?
why did you fiddle with pos gun ui in inferno?
why did you implement a new mechanic and broke the entire boosting mechanic?
why did you revamp the probe system to make exploration easier ?
why did you figure out that the chimera was **** to fit (well that was twostep)?
why did you went forth and reduced the overall requirements to live in this space?
why did you give us uncatchable haulers and reworked the entire mining department to warpcore stabbed whiney bitches?
why did you make us boost infront of the pos and why did you make the naglfar viable again?
why did you make a MemberCHA when we asked for SMAs?
why did you invent the ******* venture and made it the most profitable ship in eve?
Why did Chichi and James crawled on bleeding knees after you and asked for fixing the SMA drops...for a year
Why did you implement the wormhole wobble...
why did you do all these and many more but people still assume that wormholes haven't changed?
Why did you add automated sig updates to the scanner?

Why did we just sit there and take it up the arse .... because we didnt see an enviroment change that has been minorly changing since its inception and has now moved so far of the original that we still think it hasnt changed?


I guess its just more comfy to sit and watch, then to scream and shout.

Just saying "Wormhole space hasn't definitly not ever never changed since 2008, still the same."

Oh yeah ... WHAT DA FUDGE CAKE GHOST SITES?

But lets look forward to Rubicon 1.1:
Why does the new BS have such a wierd mass and looks suspiciously like a brawling ship?
Why does the MMJD have the potential of forcing people into more of a scram range and kill of kiting fleets (lets be a little overdramatic)
Why do we have to hide pve fleets by spamming the new dscan cloaking thingys...?


Jack you are right .. let wormholes stay the way they are because they never changed. Not from a cultural point nor technicly its just 6 years of the same ... never ever did ccp do anything to ruin the integrity and enviroment, i used to call home.

Also NEGATIVE TRACKING WAS WORKING AS INTENDED!!!! I m sorry but the list is to ******* long for saying that the good old Bert the Turtle was safe when he ducked and covered...

So you couldn't beat his argument and went KB trolling tsk tsk whats next insult him with mom jokes?