EVE New Citizens Q&A

Welcome to EvE.

RvB sounds good. I'd suggest that you also check out Brave Newbies.
You should learn a lot if you join any of them.

I'd also suggest that you focus on frigates first. Don't be too hasty to get into a battleship.
If I had to start over I'd try to get into t2 fitted assault frigates and interceptors asap. Priorize training fitting and the neccessary support skills first (i.e. shield and/or armor skills, propulsion/movement skills etc.). Being able to move a t2 frigate hull doesn't mean that you can (or should) fly it (btw, t1 frigates are very cheap and you can have a lot of fun in a t1 frigate, too). For PvP guns have an advantage over missiles although you shouldn't underestimate rockets (rockets are missiles tailored for frigates). I'd suggest to go for projectile or hybrid guns - lasers need a lot of energy to be fired and that can be a problem sometimes. Also you might want to check modules that drain energy from an enemy ship. These modules can be very powerful in PvP and are sometimes overlooked.
I'm not sure how often you'll see drones in frigate to frigate combat (atm Interceptors are fotm and I'm not even sure that there's an interceptor that can carry drones), but once you switch to cruisers and bigger ships having drones is more or less a must have. With bigger drone bays (certain cruisers and some bigger ships) you might want to look into sentry drones. When you read about how good drones are it was probably about them. Although you should note that if ccp comes to the conclusion that sentries are "too good", they might do something about it.

Do not underestimate the power of a Tristan with dual neuts and a bay full of Warriors.

Or a Federation Navy Comet

This wall of text includes almost everything I was going to say. Also, if you like extracting tears there are many opportunities avaliable in high security space also. Check out the crime and punishment boards for more information on those or send me a mail.

Okay.

Yes, you are in State Protectorate which is the Caldari FW NPC corp. So you are now in the militia.


As for PvP.

FW has the benefit of being able to make money of kills more easily and the access to FW stuff (capturing systems, defending them, FW missions).

RvB is more a normal PvP playstyle, where the fund making is up to you to decide on how to do it (be it with an alt or by dropping from RvB if you need to make more ISK and then rejoin).

SOV warfare can be fun or boring (it really depends on who you ask that question) and is more a large battle warfare whereas both RvB and FW are most smaller fleets / solo style PvP.


About guns / drones:

As mentioned, guns are the preferred weapon of choice. Because they do instant damage, the moment you activate the module, it shoots and (can) apply damage.

Missiles and drones have the downside of travel time. Both of them have to travel from your ship to the target ship to apply their damage to them.

But then again, missiles don't suffer from optimal range / fall off mechanics, it it is in range it will hit it.
Missiles also don't care about transversal / radial velocities in their calculation, they how ever have a damage reduction if shooting a target that is smaller then the missile's intended target (so shooting a frigate with cruise missiles (intended to shoot battleships and bigger) will mean the damage is reduced due to small size of frigate).

Drones take time to get to their enemy and then have to manage their speed vs the enemy to apply their damage (hence why a fast interceptor can outrun drones and make them more useless).

Both missiles and drones do have the bonus that damage type can be selected.

Both guns and missiles come in 2 sorts...long range and short range. As for guns, they are also balanced. One type does higher alpha damage then the others, another more DPS and the last one has better range projection.

About Drones being the go to thing now:

1. That is mainly referring to the Sentry Drones
2. As with anything in EVE, in time, CCP will balance it. Current FotM system can be horrible in just weeks time.



I also support the post that said do not rush.
In EVE bigger doesn't always equal better. Each single ship has it's use where it's perfect for and other situations where you curse yourself for bringing the wrong tool (in this case your ship) to the situation.

And if you really want to enjoy the full side of PvP. Look into joining a corp, a good guide can be found here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=245333&find=unread

Speaking as a Faction Warfare/Militia "bittervet"...

- PvP is as cheap as you make it. If you feel more comfortable using a 1 million ISK Tech 1 frigate rather than its 20 million Tech 2 variant... go for it!

- understand that there is no "best" ship. There are, "best for _____ situations."

- there are a plethora of different organizations and groups within groups. Find the group you will feel most comfortable in.

So yeah im in RVB, only just joined and trying to work out the whole in-game chat and channels to be in.

Although i did try FW for 1 day and actually chased out a Gallente Atron Frigate from a plex, earned myself a might 6000k lp which i assume converts to weapons or mods. Either way it felt good and i think long term that will be a great place for pvp and money making.

But at the moment i think the only option is RVB to hone my Frigate warfare skills and learn from the experienced guys.
Tristan my aim, then Vexor, then Ishtar and then Dominix. Of course this is soooooo far away but a boy can dream.

Anyways i have taken your advice on board and will be probing for more help and guides plus learning on the go as i normally do.

all appreciated though and glad to see the community supportive of new characters rather than snub them for having no gear or money.

just me and my tristan will fly many times into the unknown but the moment i get the upper hand and take a ship down i will post back here with hearty pride.

have fun and thanks

Tim

Hi Jolly,

i have looked into remapping and as i decided to buy isk instead of earning it, i.e through plex ( CCP Thank you)
i decided to buy a cerebral accelerator +9 and money set to one side for the +3 cerebral once this is needing renewing (Housemate advise) , which i know wont help me understand the game mechanics but will certainly help in the core skill area. It appears CCP has made this game very decision heavy and the idea you decide to remap for something you have that decision for the next year and have to work around it... luckily i have 2 bonus remaps, which i will not touch them yet and do 1 month training with the standard layout all the same and then shoot for a specific attribute set afterwards.

this may not seem effective to start and learning slower than normal but i hope fingers crossed, it means when i come to learning my ship skills i will have at least level 4 and some 5 of the main engineering and what you describe core skills.

I only mentioned the dominix as it looks like a big beauty to fly, no doubt slow and cumbersome but damn its a mean ship when your graphics are high, and this is what attracted me to Gallente the ships especially Pirate and Navy Variant, they look mean as.

Taranis and Ares are the interceptors i will have on my path to becoming a pvp pilot in eve. Although i may lose a few of the cheaper equivalents i have recently lost my first Tristan but it was fun, and certainly exciting rather than mash F1 F2 F1 F2 F3 F2 F1 like my most recent MMO`s.

till the next time

Tristan Tim ( Little name for myself)

There is plenty of games for pew-pew, where you win and die very often. For me EVE online is a very good space simulator in the first place. If I need pvp I go play world of tanks or other game, where I am balanced in battle with +- equal opponents. Eve online PvP is full of freaks, who spend years to be able to hunt newbees or just people, who are not ready / willing to fight them atm. They call it "piracy", I see it as curse of world full of wonders. PvP must be there when I want it and I am ready for it. And in EvE it is factional warfare. Also defending your territory in 0.0 security or fight due to wardecs . The rest is simply dirty fun of coward losers, who did not found them self winning in real life so they cure their selfesteem ruining game of other players.

I know this statement is against what most of forums thinks, but it is just my point of view - and I am fairly new to this game. Maybe with time I will change my mind, but atm EvE for me is world full of stars, not full of targets.

It was not my intention. I was just sharing my point of view on such activity and I apologize if I insulted anyone doing so.

I think I see the problem.

You see, eve is not just a space simulator, it is a "Real life in space" simulator. While Person-vs-Person fights do take place in controlled tournament, televised, settings, the great majority of person-vs-person fight take place where only one of the parties wants it, and the other party would rather be left alone doing whatever they were doing. Whether it is some school lot where one of the kids breaks out a gun, or in the local drag when a riot breaks out and the rioters start overturning cars and yanking the occupants out and beating them. Welcome to non-consensual PvP because, IRL, almost all PvP is non-consensual.

Eve attempts to create a frontier anarchy, like the wild west period, where the only real law is the one that was created by the residents. But sometimes, a family fued breaks out even in the middle of town (HS) and everyone needs to take cover. The support of law is minimal, because two sheriffs with guns aren't going to have a lot of influence when they confront a family of 30 with guns. So the sheriff has to say "Please," a lot.

Eve is a game, but it is a game that attempts to not FEEL like a game. So many mechanics inherent in games: such as fairness is deliberately missing. Power vortexes and resource disparities are deliberately engineered into the game to create pvp opportunities and increase player interaction.

There is nothing wrong about wanting pvp when you want. Just remember that "fair" isn't what most people IRL or in EVE think of when they think of PvP(either kind). I've been in a lot of fights. only one of those fights was against one person, the standard was 3 on 1, and one time I fought over 20. No, I didn't win any of the fights I was outnumbered with. But all of these people that fought me at 5, 7, 8, 14, 15, 22 on one. They were the NORMAL ones. The one fight against a single person. Yea, that was a freaking wierdo.