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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#41 - 2014-01-08 10:29:02 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:
so CCP remove can flipping



When was this

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Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-01-08 10:44:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Nami Kumamato
CONCORD be like "look y'all, this be your own private sh*#, know what I'm sayin' ? We want no trouble in this 'ere High-Sec y'all. So you take good care of your own private sh^%t., okay? We'll be right here, protecting these other dudes who get leget...legti...legiti-mi...oh gosh darnit...ATTACKED FOR REAL! Now you take good care of y'alls ya hear me?"

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Shirley Serious
Gutter Press
#43 - 2014-01-08 11:09:09 UTC
Katrina Warsong wrote:
Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.


It appeared in the losses on your character sheet ? on the corporate losses sheet ?

Do you have a bounty ? was that bounty reduced ?

Just the facts.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#44 - 2014-01-08 11:10:32 UTC
Confirming: KBs are relevant to someone somewhere

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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#45 - 2014-01-08 11:15:45 UTC
MTUs seem to be creating a lot of whining, ganking, tears and rage so I'd say that they are working as intended.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#46 - 2014-01-08 11:17:37 UTC
Jaxon Grylls wrote:
MTUs seem to be creating a lot of whining, ganking, tears and rage so I'd say that they are working as intended.


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All Hail Boobies
#47 - 2014-01-08 11:29:43 UTC
Dunno why you are worried about killmails OP... you're running missions. Blink
Rastafarian God
#48 - 2014-01-08 11:38:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Rastafarian God
If someone blows up your POS or any of its units in highsec that records a killlmail, so why wouldn't one of these?

You put something in space that belongs to you, if someone blows it up, why wouldn't they get credit? Lets not even get started on customs offices.

I understand where the OP is coming from.. I do a lot of pirating so I also run a lot of missions to counter act that. This would agitate me as well since I care about both my and my and my corps battleclinic numbers for future recruitment, but I counter act that just by not using the damn things lol.

This is coming from someone that hopes that both jet cans and anchored secure cans end up with the same rules as the MTU's mind you. I mean com on CCP, let us blow up anchored secure cans in belts and just get a suspect timer with no concorde.. :) you want player interaction... so do I lol. I mean afterall it just makes sense with the new MTU's
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-01-08 14:43:28 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
so CCP remove can flipping



When was this

Retribution. Anyone can take from a suspect's can without going suspect themselves.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#50 - 2014-01-08 15:01:18 UTC
It still amazes me that people are suddenly now showing concern for CONCORD's refusal to respond when an MTU or MDU is involved since CCP maid it clear that neither attacking a mobile deployable nor retaliatory fire for said attack, even in high sec, would not invoke CONCORD well before Rubi even launched. Didn't they state this numerous times?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#51 - 2014-01-08 15:08:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
so CCP remove can flipping



When was this

Retribution. Anyone can take from a suspect's can without going suspect themselves.


So... rather than remove it, they just made it legal.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-01-08 15:13:44 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
so CCP remove can flipping



When was this

Retribution. Anyone can take from a suspect's can without going suspect themselves.


So... rather than remove it, they just made it legal.
It's a consequence of the new CrimeWatch system. Whoever you can legally fight can legally take your stuff, because it makes no sense otherwise anyway.

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Corsair Cartel
#53 - 2014-01-08 15:30:06 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
so CCP remove can flipping



When was this

Retribution. Anyone can take from a suspect's can without going suspect themselves.


So... rather than remove it, they just made it legal.

Uh.. Not really. What they did is make it so it just doesn't work any more. There's no 'flip' if you can't make your victim go 'suspect.'

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#54 - 2014-01-08 15:48:35 UTC
I hear that if you leave your drones out, and set to aggressive, it will scare away these thieves, once they see a flight of drones shooting/heading towards them.

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Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#55 - 2014-01-08 15:52:13 UTC
Katrina Warsong wrote:
Hello everyone,

When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?
Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?

Let's be clear, i have nothing against pilots who do this, it's quite a good income and may lead you to a nice billionare ship kill.

I just want to read other people's opinion on this.


Yea, that sounds stupid. Don't expect any common sense from GD though.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#56 - 2014-01-08 15:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Priestess Lin wrote:
Katrina Warsong wrote:
Hello everyone,

When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?
Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?

Let's be clear, i have nothing against pilots who do this, it's quite a good income and may lead you to a nice billionare ship kill.

I just want to read other people's opinion on this.


Yea, that sounds stupid. Don't expect any common sense from GD though.
You might think it sounds stupid, but MTU's are mostly working as designed, the only major hiccup with them is a bug in the drone code, which is old, spaghetti like and likely to be broken some more before it's fixed.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2014-01-08 18:03:31 UTC
It's not a bug. It's quite consistent.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#58 - 2014-01-08 18:14:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
It's not a bug. It's quite consistent.

Lol I'll give you that, personally I hope it stays, any attempts to fix it would probably make the drone AI worse than it currently is.

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stoicfaux
#59 - 2014-01-08 18:19:16 UTC
Too bad you can't abandon an MTU. (As in right click, abandon, as you can with containers.)

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2014-01-08 18:38:46 UTC
Almethea wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Almethea wrote:
i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.

and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu


i love how everyone that disagrees with a bad idea regarding high sec is a goon.


goon or cfc or whatever you want be called (and you can try to hide your true natue by corp jumping, you still a little sma)



so as i disagree with OP and thus am apparently a goon......could someone tell me where to submit about 5 bill of pvp losses from the last year?
Oddly some of them appear to be serial awoxes now that i have discovered my goon nature.....
tighten up security people.

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