Wormholes

How about being able to set a Black hole System effects yourself.

When you enter a black hole system or log on in your home black hole system. You can warp to one of multiple beacons to set the system effects. Onlineing this beacon would take 15 mins.

You can choose to set your black hole to any of the current system effects currently in game. i.e a black hole can be any type of worm hole in game, with one effect only for black holes. That could be some sort of industry buff that people were asking for.

Give the system effects maybe a 48 hour timer before they reset and have to be chosen again.

How about TiDi on 200% but no planet thus no moon.

If you feel this isn't enough fun, add the 2 statics idea.

In my opinion the best suggestion so far is making it a missile WH (bonus).

All the folk asking for auto-opening statics, extra statics, no moons, etc. I thought the point was that the bonuses in a black hole system sucked, and you wanted to make them more desirable.

The majority of the ideas just make the black hole a bigger pain (and let us not pretend that the K-space idea isn't so that you can quickly move goods out of your C5->C5 static - all nobility aside).

Besides, why do all the wormholes have to be desirable? It's not like all wormholes are occupied except for black holes and they need a buff so people want to move in.

I honestly love Black Holes. The nerf on range makes it for epic in your face combat. Kiting and fighting at range is not an option in a Blackhole. The blackhole itself gives an advantage to close range brawlers. Just like any other hole gives advantages to other types of ships while taking away from another type. Pulsar for example gives amazing shield bonuses but screws armor.

LEAVE BLACK HOLES ALONE!!!!!!

I would change the effects to something along these lines.

-If shooting towards the center of the blackhole space
-Increase range and damage of weapons. Increase velocity of ships and missiles. No effect to targetting range.

-if shooting away from the center impose a reverse of everything
-Decrease range and damage of weapons. Decrease velocity of ships and missiles. No effect to targetting range.

-Apply to varying degrees according to angle and closeness from center of blackhole space.

-Center is instant death to travel through.

That is all that should happen.

Thanks for the insightful input there.

I think we need to try and stick to the actual Wormhole effects that are already out there for a guideline. I realize I posted rather a lengthy post already, i think i need to try and simplify. So of the wormholes out there, there are between 4 and 6 effects per system. Lets try and stick to that.

I'm going to try and be inventive but to also try and stick to the KISS Rules (keep it simple) TIDI and other effects are a bit much.

Ship Mass +
Ship Velocity +
Turret and module cap usage –
Capacitor capacity –
Mid slot module range and efficiency +

It would certainly make wormholes challenging for anyone unprepared.. I was debating one more but stuck on a few.
Missile explosion velocity +
Cap recharge rate +
Hull hp + (lol)
Idea’s?

Signature radius -
Ship agility - (means more agile)

I think this would be enough but you could add some tanking bonus like Hull resist or repair amount or something like that. It would certainly help black holes out of their unsufferable state they are in atm.

Remove suns from black hole systems!

current effects

Affected stat Wormhole class1 2 3 4 5 6
Missile velocity -10% -19% -27% -34% -41% -50%
Ship velocity +25% +44% +55% +68% +85% +100%
Drone control range -10% -19% -27% -34% -41% -50%
Inertia +25% +44% +55% +68% +85% +100%
Lock Range -10% -19% -27% -34% -41% -50%
Falloff -10% -19% -27% -34% -41% -50%

My proposal
class 1 2 3 4 5 6
Missile velocity +10% +19% +27% +34% +41% +50%
ship velocity -10% -20% -33% -44% -55% -65%
tracking modifier -5% -12% -25% -36% -48% -60% this should affect sentry drones as well
missile explosion velocity +10% +19% +27% +34% +41% +50%
shield resistances -5% - 11% -22% -33% -44% -55%
drone MWD speed -10% -20% -33% -44% -55% -65%

Going with the gravity being so harsh and the fact that no other wormhole has missile bonuses I think this would be a good fit. The gravity should weaken the shields hence the shield nerf, guns and sentries would also be affected as it would change the trajectory of the rounds being fired. I do not like the agility nerf through the inertia so that's just a preference. going with the idea that a black hole is constantly dragging things in go ahead and add the content for the indy guys and let this be the only class that has ice sites and a higher spawn rate for ore and gas sites. The idea for 2 statics is ok, but I don't think its needed just changing the spawns and the effects would be more than enough to make them more valuable it won't work for everyone but its not supposed to. If all wormholes are like magnitars then it would get boring very fast. wormhole space is supposed to be random and crazy that's what makes the content out here better for me at least but it doesn't appeal to all of eve and that's not a bad thing. I love having something different every time I see a new sig appear this is the only place in eve where you have the entirety of the map right out your door because you don't know who is in the next hole or what statics the next hole in the chain will have. So make it more to appeal to a niche so the space will be populated as of the moment the space is unlivable and I know that CCP didn't intend for people to live in w-space but it happened so make it better for the ones who chose to live out here. the modifiers I propose here would make it hard enough there is not many armor tanked missile boats, but something like this would make it more usable. plus the shield nerf would make the POS shields weaker as well so it would make for a good PVP buff.


Just my thoughts I probably babbled a bit, but I tend to do that at times.

In my opinion the question if there should be changes to effect and what they would be is confusing. There needs to be more information made available rather than plugging in more mathematics/algorithms.

The sleepers have a story - as simple as that may be, that's what makes them enjoyable to fight. In light of this I think any changes made to Wormholes in general, should simply be adding to the story of Wormholes - or the science fiction. For example: XXX is a new material discovered to counter the effects of YYYY effects (notice 3 X's and 4 Y's?) - therefore have so and so bring their mining ship to harvest the material.

Meanwhile, big bad so and so is closing in for the kill - which brings the "story" to an abrupt ending, until I can kill him or run away, and get back to the story........