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Extra! extra!! ccp bufing afk play and nerfing legit play once again!!!
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2014-01-07 22:30:38 UTC
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
Sounds like a module you would use to hide fleets of ships, especially capitals from dscan.

If they were hiding one afk ship, the deployable structure is actually easier to scan with probes so I don't see any problems here.



yeah ... though presumably if you light a cyno inside the 30km radius the cyno itself will still show up.

I assume the main use for this module will be as a diversion ... pop 20 or 30 of these into a threatened system and laugh while people scurry around attempting to set up defences in a system you are not even interested in.

In theory half a dozen people with alts could trick an entire alliance onto standby if they were clever enough going about it :D
Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#102 - 2014-01-07 22:33:01 UTC
It seems it might be a nerf to small gangs who can now be baited by large ones into these traps.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#103 - 2014-01-07 23:38:01 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
Sounds like a module you would use to hide fleets of ships, especially capitals from dscan.

If they were hiding one afk ship, the deployable structure is actually easier to scan with probes so I don't see any problems here.



yeah ... though presumably if you light a cyno inside the 30km radius the cyno itself will still show up.

I assume the main use for this module will be as a diversion ... pop 20 or 30 of these into a threatened system and laugh while people scurry around attempting to set up defences in a system you are not even interested in.

In theory half a dozen people with alts could trick an entire alliance onto standby if they were clever enough going about it :D

Should work equally well on the defensive. Dunno about you, but if I lead a fleet into a system, and find a dozen or so blind spots, I'm going to be spending some time figuring out WTF is hiding, if I can. More gray hair for the FCs. Big smile

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I am disposable
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2014-01-08 00:06:35 UTC
Aih-Li Tahn wrote:
even for those of u who dont go on F&I, u need to know whats comng ur way. read for urself: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=310620

tldr; an ancorable module that makes almost evrything next to it imune to dscan. HOW FUN EH! sound like troll?? NOPE, ITS OFICIAL BY CCP FOZIE LOLOLO

n e way, imma go enjoy the twilight days of playable eve. have fun guys


The deployable can be scanned down. What exactly is the problem again? Personally I think these things will be borderline useless with their 2 hour lifespan and one-time use.
I am disposable
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2014-01-08 00:08:16 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
It seems it might be a nerf to small gangs who can now be baited by large ones into these traps.


It's a nerf to small gangs of stupid pilots.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#106 - 2014-01-08 00:10:20 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:

That's what cloaked scouts are for.


Except for the fact that this module effectively eliminates every 'cloaked scout' shiptype apart from nullified probing t3s...


Sorry, I don't follow your logic on this.

How does it eliminate covert ops/cloaked scouts exactly?
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#107 - 2014-01-08 00:15:03 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:

That's what cloaked scouts are for.


Except for the fact that this module effectively eliminates every 'cloaked scout' shiptype apart from nullified probing t3s...


Sorry, I don't follow your logic on this.

How does it eliminate covert ops/cloaked scouts exactly?


dragbubble(with a side of decloaking crap) + sentry drone = dead scout

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#108 - 2014-01-08 00:17:39 UTC
That is more an issue of drag bubbles + littering space to decloak. Not of the MSI.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#109 - 2014-01-08 01:08:38 UTC
Obligatory "EvE is Dying" post inserted here.

Also, nerf afk cloaking stealth thread post.


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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2014-01-08 02:23:37 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
Sounds like a module you would use to hide fleets of ships, especially capitals from dscan.

If they were hiding one afk ship, the deployable structure is actually easier to scan with probes so I don't see any problems here.



yeah ... though presumably if you light a cyno inside the 30km radius the cyno itself will still show up.

I assume the main use for this module will be as a diversion ... pop 20 or 30 of these into a threatened system and laugh while people scurry around attempting to set up defences in a system you are not even interested in.

In theory half a dozen people with alts could trick an entire alliance onto standby if they were clever enough going about it :D

Should work equally well on the defensive. Dunno about you, but if I lead a fleet into a system, and find a dozen or so blind spots, I'm going to be spending some time figuring out WTF is hiding, if I can. More gray hair for the FCs. Big smile


Be interesting to see if you can do it solo ...

1. Undock warp to a safe spot and light cyno
2. Drop cloaky unit
3. Eject from ship and pod express back to station or just dock in the pod
4. grab new cyno capable ship and cloaky unit
5. Rinse and repeat

Will sorta depend on how the cyno rules work.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2014-01-08 02:49:51 UTC
You can't eject from a ship with a lit cyno.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#112 - 2014-01-08 02:58:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Jill Chastot wrote:
dragbubble(with a side of decloaking crap) + sentry drone = dead scout


That doesn't eliminate the ships, only the weak scout pilots.

I have no problem with that. A good scout won't be caught this way very often. Occasionally maybe because you can't plan for everything, but in general, this won't be a problem for competent scouts and that sort of stupidity can happen anywhere. It has nothing to do with this specific module.
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2014-01-08 17:50:16 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
The tears in this thread are so delicious, omg. I foresee many ragequitting pirates in the future, oh yes, Twisted FINALLY we are getting to a place where pirates are going to have to take some risks in EVE.

<3 you foz


It what way don't pirates take risks?

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#114 - 2014-01-08 17:59:04 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
dragbubble(with a side of decloaking crap) + sentry drone = dead scout


That doesn't eliminate the ships, only the weak scout pilots.

I have no problem with that. A good scout won't be caught this way very often. Occasionally maybe because you can't plan for everything, but in general, this won't be a problem for competent scouts and that sort of stupidity can happen anywhere. It has nothing to do with this specific module.


And a not stupid scout is sitting in something that is nullified and cloaked to avoid getting dragged in bubbles and thats where the circle closes.

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Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2014-01-08 18:05:11 UTC
I am disposable wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
It seems it might be a nerf to small gangs who can now be baited by large ones into these traps.


It's a nerf to small gangs of stupid pilots.


It's a big buff to stupid entitled bears

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