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Smartbombing bs for ratting?

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johnscience
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-12-31 19:23:23 UTC
Every now and again when I look on the front page of evekill I see kms like these:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21174641

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21139720

Usually faction battleships, navy and pirate, usually located in nullsec regions with sansha/bloodraider rats, and they all are armor tanked smartbombing fit, usually the people flying with them in ratting sites are on their lossmails because their smartbombs hit them before they were caught and killed.

What is the story behind this, is this some super efficient way of rating by just smart bombing? I have never heard of this before.
Zrogh Qerhurcouruo
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-01-01 10:24:50 UTC
Atleast it's not skill intensive.
Sodohm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-01-01 18:52:58 UTC
My guess would be that's it's an easier way to program a bot, not havng to handle the targeting part. But then FoF missiles can do that too.
Could be they are bubble smartbombing bses gone for a lil ratting after the camp too.
All in All, I dont know but these are my guesses
Welfgen
Unicorn Solutions
#4 - 2014-01-02 05:19:33 UTC
Yes its super fine tuned efficiency. Some ratting anomalies can be run with such smart bombing battleship.

You warp to anomaly and rats spawn right there where you land. Activate bombs and you hit everything. I have friends that claim getting 150-200 mil/hour this way when he has couple of these going and dedicated salvager picking up loot/salvage.

It works because of how smartbombs works. Its area of effect weapon. hits everything in range. And only thing that diminish DPS it does is resists of target on damage type it does. So more targets you have in range, more damage you dish out.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5 - 2014-01-02 15:57:57 UTC
Welfgen wrote:
Yes its super fine tuned efficiency. Some ratting anomalies can be run with such smart bombing battleship.

You warp to anomaly and rats spawn right there where you land. Activate bombs and you hit everything. I have friends that claim getting 150-200 mil/hour this way when he has couple of these going and dedicated salvager picking up loot/salvage.

It works because of how smartbombs works. Its area of effect weapon. hits everything in range. And only thing that diminish DPS it does is resists of target on damage type it does. So more targets you have in range, more damage you dish out.


definitely based on knowing exactly where the spawns are, as otherwise you would always have some rats want to orbit from far away.

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Vihura
Vihura Cor
#6 - 2014-01-06 11:47:02 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Welfgen wrote:
Yes its super fine tuned efficiency. Some ratting anomalies can be run with such smart bombing battleship.

You warp to anomaly and rats spawn right there where you land. Activate bombs and you hit everything. I have friends that claim getting 150-200 mil/hour this way when he has couple of these going and dedicated salvager picking up loot/salvage.

It works because of how smartbombs works. Its area of effect weapon. hits everything in range. And only thing that diminish DPS it does is resists of target on damage type it does. So more targets you have in range, more damage you dish out.


definitely based on knowing exactly where the spawns are, as otherwise you would always have some rats want to orbit from far away.

You need 2 smart bombing ships you warp at 0 and finish anomaly in 2-5minutes, some time you forget turn on hardeners and you bomb your second ship...
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#7 - 2014-01-06 19:23:08 UTC
This is not the ratting you are looking for... You want to use your carrier to rat... The smartbomb is lie...

Oh and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoTF06GWSk
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#8 - 2014-01-06 19:25:18 UTC
BTW.. Its more like 400 Mil wish salvage.. OH and you can actually do this in a WH
Lt Manshield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-01-06 19:47:55 UTC
Gary Bell wrote:
This is not the ratting you are looking for... You want to use your carrier to rat... The smartbomb is lie...

Oh and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoTF06GWSk


Why rat in a carrier when you could rat in a smartbomb nyx?
Gate Havens are a breeze in that thing.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#10 - 2014-01-06 19:57:40 UTC
IDK why anyone would use a mach for the disco ship.. But I guess some people like to waste money lol
Tootsie Fruit
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-01-06 20:25:14 UTC
johnscience wrote:
Every now and again when I look on the front page of evekill I see kms like these:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21174641

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21139720

Usually faction battleships, navy and pirate, usually located in nullsec regions with sansha/bloodraider rats, and they all are armor tanked smartbombing fit, usually the people flying with them in ratting sites are on their lossmails because their smartbombs hit them before they were caught and killed.

What is the story behind this, is this some super efficient way of rating by just smart bombing? I have never heard of this before.


Yes really efficient especially when ratting the ones that orbit close. You hit everything in range at the same time for full damage(minus resists)

Perfect for mutliboxing and rat farming. Just send in a salvager every now and then and its just raining isk.

BTW the second one is better set up then the first. First is using way to many high end gear for it to be cost effective considering you do occasionally lose one.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-07 10:53:20 UTC
I have done this and it works in gate haven and forsaken hub.

First off, a marauder has 4 utility highs well suited for smartbombs to complement your turret dps. The impact is killing all cruiser- on spawn and dealing a volley worth of turret damage to all other rats. It increases ticks by a crapton.

Secondly, if you want to use pure smartbombs it takes 2-4 battleships to outsmart rat BS before they drift off range. Faction smarties are doubtlessly better than t2 due to dps, radius and cap use. For forsaken hubs you need to use a pod / cloaky as the warp in to not have the initial spawn scatter. Gate haven is better since you have time to get in position from warp in.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#13 - 2014-01-07 13:11:14 UTC
Very interetsing thread cheers OP.

I can't help but notice we are looking at killmails of fallen smart bombing battleships. With the new warp mechanics there is a clear disadvantage when sitting close to the warp in range of hostile ships. Especially without a MJD.

For those who are doing this, is the isk made worth losing a few of these ships every so often? I need numbers :-P
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#14 - 2014-01-12 13:47:38 UTC
If your a tard You loose them.. I havent lost one yet.. The trick is using the right ship which is not the Mach.. and using well skilled toons or enough bling to make up for it..

Oh and the best is when a bomber or ceptor warps to the site like oh im bout to get you hurf hurf and then they mail you like wow dident see that coming

Metamonic
Bubbles Bubbles Bubbles
#15 - 2014-01-13 15:02:27 UTC
Never used smart bombs, but I always imagined they would damage the wrecks, since they are vulnerable to normal weaponry.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#16 - 2014-01-14 13:54:47 UTC
Nope
Kama Kairade
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-02-02 18:36:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kama Kairade
So here's the deal.

300m/hr in isk, 175m hr in loot. Investment is 5b isk and 5 accounts. You can do 4 accounts if you give up the salvage, or recruit a b'slave to do it for you.

If you're currently multiboxing, and have the PC that can handle 4/5 clients, then you should consider sbomb ratting. You'll recoup your investment in a week. You'll triple your income thereafter.

If you've never multibox'ed, then this is not the thing for you. It's really not a good place to 'start' multiboxing as a beginner.

There are some downsides.
1: The startup investment
2: Disconnects = Death, including the pod. It's just that simple.
3: You're in the structure, so insta warp-out is not an option. It takes about 30 seconds to get clear and get into warp. This means AWOX = death. Neuts with half a brain and good dir scanning skills= death. Ratting in busy systems with lots of neut traffic = death. Basically, "DON'T GET CAUGHT".
4: To add the salvager, you really need to learn to economize your clicks and give eve the full measure of your attention. You can't phone-in 5 accounts.
5: While you don't 'need' isboxer to do this, I recommend that you get it, or an equivalent program to manage your client windows. Seriously, it makes this so much easier when you can see everything.

If you can get access to a true -1 system, there's an extra haven. You can do one haven every ~4 minutes, which ups the income to 450m/hr + 250m loot/salvage.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#18 - 2014-02-09 04:16:40 UTC
When I run I approach the gate as I land with each disco BS.. Then warp the cleanup ship into the site at 30.. Mine being a rattlesnake most of the time..

99.9 Percent of the time when you allign out it takes you right back threw the opening..

The only time I ever get my battleship stuck is when I try to empty rat wreaks and move around