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GIven the comments by CCP seagull that an engaged player is one that samples a little bit of everything eve has to offer I am now wondering if part of the development plan for our sandbox is to morph into a themepark.

Can we at least get some idea as to which "game" these mythical "Project 2" and "Project 3" creatures are being considered for?

The placeholder comments in the Minutes were vague to the degree of being pointless.

Tks.

Considering that Dust has a CPM, I'd suspect Eve.

I don't think that they'll go in that direction, but certainly it is disturbing that all the advertising goes to a minoritary feature which is only of interest to a small minority whose interests and needs are incompatible with those of the rest of the game.

Looking at their public statements, looks like the Hallelujah Plan is all about Nullsec 2.0. Yet hidden there in the minutes, it turns that they are quite aware that nullsec is the lesser of their troubles in terms of population growth, player retention and why people gives them money and for how long.

High security space and PvE are the biggest issue, and so CCP advertises avatars in fancy trailers and talks about expanding uberalliance nullsec in a plan spanning three years.

If that makes sense to you, congratulations. If don't, Malcanis will tell you why you're too stupid to breathe and think simultaneously.

Not sure if it would be NDA, but how would you gauge your excitement level for project 2 and 3 on a scale from 1 to 10. 1 massively disappointed and 10 for shut up and take my money.

Awesome! Since there are lots of dev and csm posts I feel compelled to contribute:

I'm going to focus on the stuff I liked but there was one thing that stood out to me that I didn't.

>Session 20: UI Modernization



The overview tabs are glorified piles upon piles of useless information. From the vast amounts of information presented I am usually only interrested in a few things. In the Overview it's the number and type of the objects I care about right now. How many asteroids, cans, frigates, bombers, criminals, allies and whatever it is I currently care for. I care about their numbers and a breakdown in types and in general properties. Right now only one of those properties is sortable at any given time. I can only sort by size or only sort by ship or only sort by distance...

Problem: simultaneous sortable properties are too limited.

It's sometimes hard to figure out where random pieces fit in in industry. I can look them up in the market and google to find it's uses but I'd really rather have a tech tree of some kind.

Problem: it's hard to find the application for some items

>Session 18: PvE

Procedural generated pve.

Yes please.



The one thing I didn't like was this:

>Session 17: Reasonable Things Review

The 11th item was an AFK and ready check indicator



In my opinion that's an invalid argument because it can be applied in any possible way and to support any position anyone wants to choose.

I can say "organized and good people write their own space game and don't play eve."

I can say "organized and good people don't have troubles with their life because they have organized it well and they are good people."

I can say "organzied and good people don't have problems with profanity or harrassment because they are good people and are organised in a way that they can deal with it."

I choose to not go into a random political direction because it's not something that belongs here, even though I very well could. Just be aware that you can argue for or against anything with "good and organized people can deal with the situation already anyway".

Ultimately it's the justification of somebody who percieves it to not be a problem because he himself or his friends don't have that problem (which btw he is correct about because he is making his own space game as an employee of CCP). It's not adressing the problem it's evading it.

Ultimately Soundwave (and CCP) has to choose whether he wants his work to be to enable people to play a space game (better) or not.

I think CCP's history of supporting a 10 year old game and celebrating that shows that Soundwave is wrong here.

Apart from that keep up the good work!

Procedural hell + CCP?

Excuse me, I'll be back in a minute.

Doesn't have to be hell if they do it right... In any case it's not going to happen soon if at all. 9 to 12 months dev time is not something I think will go into that direction anytime soon. Too many other things could be done in that time that I would prefer.

Also yay, somebody read my post!

Unless you're Dolan's alt, I'm just going to go ahead and disagree with this now, Dersen.

I think most of the folks commenting here would agree that transparency and the summit minutes are important. Imo, assessment of quality is essential to achieving it. But, I do not agree that we would be best served by having a quality assessment arrive after the release of the expansion it references.

Good quality control establishes goals (crowdsourcing,) works to implement them (summit,) and then measures results (an as-yet unclear/nonexistant step unless you count individual csm member blogs maybe.)

It just seems to me that the csm summit minutes have always been heavily nda'ed and there hasn't yet been a problem with the timing of their release before this cycle. I can understand how delaying the minutes until after the expansion is released would benefit CCP, but I cannot comprehend how it benefits the players. And as our representatives, I'd like access to our player representatives' minutes as soon as possible.

At a minimum, you should come up with a more-compelling reason to delay the minutes beyond "it was easier to read."

imo.

lol

YK

We're talking about procedural mechanics and CCP, the company whose player drone AI won't shoot ships of their size after 10 years, albeit NPC ships AI certainly shoot drones of their size.

I would rather prefer to get player-driven PvE.