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Exploration tips/hints and advice.

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Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#21 - 2014-01-06 13:03:59 UTC
Concerning the wormhole thing, thats definitely bad luck What?
Rand Allesteir
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-01-06 16:10:57 UTC
Khadrea Shakor wrote:

Was on top of me within seconds after appearing in Local. You can not do that without having the site pre-scanned. I am not mad, I am just saying this happens.



Sure, it happens, but how often? To a newbie what you lost might seem like a lot, but exploration pulls in enough isk to make it a "meh" loss. Furthermore, you don't actually *need* a sister's scanner, or even sister's probes - I've been scanning down sites just fine without them. A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak. The best investment is the T2 data/relic analyzers which up your chances of completing the highest difficulty minigames, which is also another mil. Even the worst sites are likely to give you a couple of mil in lowsec.


Warping out as soon as you see someone doesn't really teach you anything. Try using dscan to figure out what they're doing, and whether they can find you. You can spam a short-range dscan to look for incoming ships and warp away if you see one incoming. There's lots of ways to mitigate the risk, but if you're expecting no risk(== no ships lost), then you're not going to find that, even in hisec.
Gimme more Cynos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-01-06 16:20:40 UTC
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-01-06 16:41:20 UTC
Rand Allesteir wrote:
A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak.


Is there any reason to fit a cloak on the T1 frigs in low-sec?, can't really see where it would make a difference.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#25 - 2014-01-06 17:53:49 UTC
dexington wrote:
Rand Allesteir wrote:
A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak.


Is there any reason to fit a cloak on the T1 frigs in low-sec?, can't really see where it would make a difference.


Low skills, taking forever to pin a site, no safes, forgetting to hit dscan because you're jiggling probes instead.... As soon as someone lands on grid, you're dead.

That's all I can think of.
Khadrea Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#26 - 2014-01-06 20:22:46 UTC
Rand Allesteir wrote:
Khadrea Shakor wrote:

Was on top of me within seconds after appearing in Local. You can not do that without having the site pre-scanned. I am not mad, I am just saying this happens.



Sure, it happens, but how often? To a newbie what you lost might seem like a lot, but exploration pulls in enough isk to make it a "meh" loss. Furthermore, you don't actually *need* a sister's scanner, or even sister's probes - I've been scanning down sites just fine without them. A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak. The best investment is the T2 data/relic analyzers which up your chances of completing the highest difficulty minigames, which is also another mil. Even the worst sites are likely to give you a couple of mil in lowsec.


Warping out as soon as you see someone doesn't really teach you anything. Try using dscan to figure out what they're doing, and whether they can find you. You can spam a short-range dscan to look for incoming ships and warp away if you see one incoming. There's lots of ways to mitigate the risk, but if you're expecting no risk(== no ships lost), then you're not going to find that, even in hisec.

Look Rand, I am not disputing any of this :)
I'm just saying this happens and it's nigh impossible to properly do the d-scan+play the minigame+etc.

btw I've had that covops for..i don't know..four years? It finally died, yay. Jita was close by.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-01-06 20:54:23 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
dexington wrote:
Rand Allesteir wrote:
A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak.


Is there any reason to fit a cloak on the T1 frigs in low-sec?, can't really see where it would make a difference.


Low skills, taking forever to pin a site, no safes, forgetting to hit dscan because you're jiggling probes instead.... As soon as someone lands on grid, you're dead.

That's all I can think of.


Guess it can be handy, if you don't have safes to hide in while scanning. If you have a safe to warp to, you can just mwd in any direction and you should be safe.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Atog Uz
Help Desk Please Hold
#28 - 2014-01-07 00:36:00 UTC
dexington wrote:
Rand Allesteir wrote:
A t1 frig with cheap t1 mods costs less than 3mil and most of that is the cloak.


Is there any reason to fit a cloak on the T1 frigs in low-sec?, can't really see where it would make a difference.


I like it, kind of like a security blanket, but I did a lot of scanning without it.

It has saved me twice so far so it has paid for itself.

I also use it if I need to go afk. Saves me the warp to station and keeps the active scans up (going in the station resets them).

It really is a convenience item. I just use the cheap one though.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-01-07 01:58:39 UTC
I can see how the cloak makes life a little easier, but for the 3 high frigs i think 2 guns and a probe launcher opens up a lot more options. The magnate and heron both can do between 100 and 150 dps depending on fitting and skills, it's more then enough to bully other explores you came across.

The downside is that it's hard to fit both the cargo scanner, analyzers, prop mods and scram...

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

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