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If yourship goes into an emergency warp while a structure is in the way you will never enter warp. Your ship will endlessly bump into the structure and you will never be able to cancel warp because emergency warps cannot be cancelled.

In low sec and nullsec this can be a very big problem as any one who happens by will then end the life of your infinitely stuck clone.

This can be a problem in hi sec as well no matter what ship your in or what your doing. I'm sure your imaginations can go from there.

I was told by a GM that this is a normal intended game mechanic.
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this "intended game mechanic" is a mechanic that I'm sure every one can agree needs changed.

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Also, note the difference between ewarp and regular warping. Ewarp only involves either logging in or out. If you're in a capital ship or something, and you somehow get bumped repeatedly on logging into the game, and die before you can act; that's an exploit. On the other end, if you're trying to log out, and you've got an aggression timer or something that stops you from safe logging, AND THEN you also have something big and clunky in your way like a POS that stops you from warping off to a random safe, that's your own fault.

Even so, that doesn't follow from what was posted regarding the situation, since you were aligning to a gate, not a random safe. The implication is that you got caught warping away from a POS, and died shortly thereafter. Which sucks, sure, but whining about it on the forums doesn't help your case, especially not while breaking the rules about it.

Why does how long its been a rule matter? Its still stupid and I still don't agree with it.




Nope once tackled I was able to run for a while.



The point is there is a time period where my ship was stuck due to emergency warp not being able to be canceled. As the GM stated it is a normal intended game mechanic that you be stuck next to a structure while in an emergency warp. Unable to manually pilot, eject, self destruct, or issue ANY commands to your ship. It is intended that your character be rendered useless until destroyed by hostile pilots.

This is a supremely ******** mechanic and This post is a proposal to change that.


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Even so, that doesn't follow from what was posted regarding the situation, since you were aligning to a gate, not a random safe. The implication is that you got caught warping away from a POS, and died shortly thereafter.
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I wish you guys would read?

My ship was aligning to an emergency warp point. Not a gate. I got caught while stuck in an EMERGENCY WARP that would never initiate and I couldn't cancel.

Disregarding the fact that you shouldn't have posted what you posted anyways, the material that you posted didn't support that assertion. Unless what you're trying to say is that you logged on in a POS that you used to have access to, and somehow that spawned you in a glitched position or something, which would be more reasonable, but isn't implied by your statements thus far.

Okay, then I maintain that the sequence of events, as you've presented them, is incoherent.

Emergency warp, again, only triggers on logon and logoff. If you didn't login to an ewarp (in which you somehow got caught?), you wouldn't have been online for the ewarp. If you logged off for an ewarp, then it's your own fault if there was someone in position to catch you (because you didn't safelog). Either way, that wouldn't have led to the sequence of events you described, which leads me to conclude that you're using the term 'emergency warp' incorrectly.

From what I can gather his Domi arrived at the POS.
33 seconds later a hostile engaged his ship, while he was aligning to the gate. He used his MJD, moved out of tackle range and got to the gate.
He jumped into the next system 2 minutes 57 seconds after that first engagement, where he was tackled and killed.

So at what point was he stuck?

He was either trying to get away from them and warped to the POS, or he logged out and in there. But as the time he arrived to when he was first engaged at the POS is only 33 seconds, it's hard to fathom what he was doing. He may have been running and tried to log, then realised he had a timer that meant his ship wouldn't disappear.

Who knows? Well he does, but he's rather vague about it all. One thing we know for sure, he does whine a great deal.

The information present clearly and loudly states that OP is just an inept pilot. End of ****ing story.