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La5eR
House Mijaala
#1 - 2014-01-06 05:18:17 UTC
If I were to say, hire people in dogecoins to run missions for me on their account and then give me the isk they obtain from the missions would this technically be within the TOS? It doesnt modify the game in any way, I dont feel like even logging on to eve except to change a skill and train it up.

They are not using my account, but just merely sending the isk bounties of the mission to me while keeping the salvage and loot recieved from the rats in the mission. I am not playing eve in any way shape or form while they are playing eve. Thus not being "bot like".

Moreover, what about purchasing PLEX from people for CC instead of in-game currency. Afterall, all that it would look like to CCP would be a 0isk trade of a plex to me and visaversa to either receive or to send cryptocurrency.

I also recommend CCP get in on this and add an option for payment with a public address of their own if they so desire to tap into this growing standard of fund transfer.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#2 - 2014-01-06 05:21:59 UTC
Does not matter if it is $, cryptocurrency or sheep. It's RMT and not allowed per EULA
Jamagh
Grand Violations
#3 - 2014-01-06 05:26:12 UTC
Why would you not just run the mission yourself? Much more satisfying to get the ISK yourself than to have someone else do it for you. And there is no risk of getting banned when you do it yourself. Unless you are stupid and bot... then you deserve to be banned.


And on the subject of the sheep, you stay away from the one with the black face! She is MINE!

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-06 05:27:08 UTC
La5eR wrote:
If I were to say, hire people in dogecoins to run missions for me on their account and then give me the isk they obtain from the missions would this technically be within the TOS? It doesnt modify the game in any way, I dont feel like even logging on to eve except to change a skill and train it up.

They are not using my account, but just merely sending the isk bounties of the mission to me while keeping the salvage and loot recieved from the rats in the mission. I am not playing eve in any way shape or form while they are playing eve. Thus not being "bot like".

Moreover, what about purchasing PLEX from people for CC instead of in-game currency. Afterall, all that it would look like to CCP would be a 0isk trade of a plex to me and visaversa to either receive or to send cryptocurrency.

I also recommend CCP get in on this and add an option for payment with a public address of their own if they so desire to tap into this growing standard of fund transfer.


This again?

At this stage, I'm gonna have to call this one a troll.

Growing standard of funds transfer? There is so much wrong with that sentence I don't even know where to start.



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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-01-06 05:30:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
... or you could always just rent out a large chunk of Null, especially if you have no "claim" of any kind to so much as a single asteroid.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-01-06 05:42:34 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
... or you could always just rent out a large chunk of Null, especially if you have no "claim" of any kind to so much as a single asteroid.

Be all you can be, and be that "fearless and inventive" kind of scum that Jabba lurvs. Pirate

nope, can no longer rent out nullsec systems you dont own, against the EULA, under "impersonation". cannot "impersonate" a member of CCP, another player, or represent a player entity you arent actually part of, hell, you cant even impersonate your own alt.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-06 05:44:33 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
... or you could always just rent out a large chunk of Null, especially if you have no "claim" of any kind to so much as a single asteroid.

Be all you can be, and be that "fearless and inventive" kind of scum that Jabba lurvs. Pirate




I think I speak for both the CFC and N3PL when I say we will shove supers so far up your ass even the soothing curves of an aeon will not save your anus. Nobody touches our cows. Nobody.


We need the money to fund wars for kugu spurging.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#8 - 2014-01-06 06:40:38 UTC
Much doge.

Such amaze.

Wow.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#9 - 2014-01-06 07:06:10 UTC
I love doge :3 (<--thats a dog, not a cat)
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-01-06 09:53:29 UTC
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2014-01-06 10:09:15 UTC
The stupidity with this one is great...

RMT m*therf*cker do you speak it!?

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2014-01-06 12:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
La5eR wrote:
If I were to say, hire people in dogecoins to run missions for me on their account and then give me the isk they obtain from the missions would this technically be within the TOS? It doesnt modify the game in any way, I dont feel like even logging on to eve except to change a skill and train it up.

They are not using my account, but just merely sending the isk bounties of the mission to me while keeping the salvage and loot recieved from the rats in the mission. I am not playing eve in any way shape or form while they are playing eve. Thus not being "bot like".

Moreover, what about purchasing PLEX from people for CC instead of in-game currency. Afterall, all that it would look like to CCP would be a 0isk trade of a plex to me and visaversa to either receive or to send cryptocurrency.

I also recommend CCP get in on this and add an option for payment with a public address of their own if they so desire to tap into this growing standard of fund transfer.



Lawyers and courts really don't care which route you took to get there. If you end up with more money in your pocket than you had before, you are guilty of exactly the same thing as if you had accepted cash directly.

Also, discussing RMT is not only a no-no it's also a bannable offense. IBTL.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2014-01-06 17:16:26 UTC
EULA wrote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.


I thought it was pretty clear. Are bitcoins/dogecoins/cryptocurrency "in-game services or items"? No, they are not, same as dollars, pounds, yen, or pizzas are not. Therefore trading in-game items for them is RMT.

If you would like an official response from the CCP GM team (not just a humble ISD's opinion/interpretation), I recommend you file a support ticket about it.

Additionally...
Quote:
21. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.

Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.

Thread locked.

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