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Grinding is killing the fun

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-01-06 00:36:06 UTC
Many good suggestions here but i would like to stress the undercurrent to them all.
eve is fun with fun people.
find a decent corp that runs fun stuff together.
a low /null small gang corp of close friends that pvp and pve together and entertain each other is much better than the huge mega corps where you become a faceless f1 pusher (or drone assigner).
it i more fun taking small amounts of stuff from the bigger guys then taking tons of stuff from people that are much smaller/weaker than you. just as it is more fun having 4-5 people scanning and then running plexes together while mocking each other about stupid losses and linking pron/ discussing life etc etc.
eve is about communities and joining a few decent ones is the way to go.
i had no idea about this when i used to be in high sec corps solo exploring. can't believe i even found that fun now.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-01-06 00:48:11 UTC
Tollen Gallen wrote:
I like Boobees.
Thanks, lovely one! :)

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#23 - 2014-01-06 00:48:27 UTC
If you have a PI alt, then you have some small income that is not too strenuous.

I suggest that you get yourself a nice solo ship (maybe something with some probes), then start roaming around in other people's territory.

I frequently roam around and it's lots of fun. Then when I lose all my ships or all my money, I grind up for a little while (and by that I mean I run scams, ninja salvage and corp thefts and such in between L4s) and start over.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

stoicfaux
#24 - 2014-01-06 00:55:47 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Tollen Gallen wrote:
I like Boobees.
Thanks, lovely one! :)

One?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-01-06 01:00:28 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Tollen Gallen wrote:
I like Boobees.
Thanks, lovely one! :)

One?

me engrish?

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#26 - 2014-01-06 01:07:19 UTC
Silvetica Dian wrote:
it i more fun taking small amounts of stuff from the bigger guys then taking tons of stuff from people that are much smaller/weaker than you.

Yeah, I know right?

Gotta keep chipping away at that elite pvp sov.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#27 - 2014-01-06 11:03:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Prie Mary wrote:
To go and do exactly the same thing in nullsec?


Nah, they got bots for all that. Just bot mine, sell, moongoo, sell, T2 BPO, sell, bot magic sov spawns to print more free ISK, then PLEX it up, train your main until you can fly a supercap and then join the glorious blob horde in the name of Whatever Alliance once or twice a year.

Excitement!

No, really. You'll only be at the keyboard maybe two hours a month to check up on all your passive & risk-free ISK generators, which leaves you plenty of time to go play other games instead. The excitement comes from playing Mario Cart while EvE churns silently along in the background.

I'm told that this is the apex of EvE gameplay. Personally, I think it's just the thinly veiled pleas of people who got sucked into a void of nullgrind boredom & loneliness who desperately need a hug or something, but, having lost all ability to operate in a normal human context anymore (due to isolation) they simply can no longer communicate by any means except for e-peen waving and cyno dropping blobs on anyone who comes near them.

Kind of like Edward Scissor Hands high on bath salts, basically.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#28 - 2014-01-06 11:06:34 UTC
lol, player x engages in a game activity, finds it boring and complains at CCP about it.
How is about doing something else, stop grinding eventually?
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#29 - 2014-01-06 15:52:05 UTC
Sanjun Kjunalg wrote:
I have grind mining, exploration, missions (combat, distribution and mining) belt ratting and PI, been in a merc corp and been gate and station camping for hours. Same grinding over and over agin without any progress.

Now I just logg in and sitt at the station and do some PI then look in the corp chat. But after that I have no idea what to do so I just the logg out.

Thinking of starting a new char just to have any progress.... A char old like me have most skill training at a +35 days perspective... or just put account on hold agin ..

Can any one help me with an idea what to do in EvE thats fun?

Thankful for any ideas

Cheers / Sanjun


I am sure that you understand the fact the game of Eve is based on everyone paying for their stuff, whatever that may be.

The vast majority of the player base has to indeed grind for it.

Non-grind options to finance your play are:

Buy ISK by converting plexes.
Work your way into a leadership position in a null sec cartel and have the ISK drown you.
Be very effective at PvP and prey on other players.

But that is about it.

So you have to decide, are you comfortable doing that grind?
It does not matter where you do it, be it high sec, low sec, blob-sec, or wormholes.
It is only a matter of net return per hour. The actions in each security zone of space are pretty much identical when you get down to it.

So if you are not comfortable with the grind, and can't stomach the 3 non-grind options, then I don't think Eve is for you.
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-01-06 16:00:11 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Leave Highsec.







He may be right. Sounds like the High Sec blues. Grab a POS head to null and set it up. Throw guns on it and go exploring. Not being a jerk but there's a lot to this game and grinding is just a nick in the surface.
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