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Final words on the Somer Blink Issue?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#61 - 2014-01-05 11:01:32 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The final word is:

Some people think they understand it and are annoyed

Some people think they understand it and arent

And some people find the constant whining extremely tedious.


What if I do understand it and am annoyed but I also find it tedious and wish CCP would just answer already?


Consider it a ven diagram :)

I am happy with the situation as it is (I despise lotteries but thats not the issue) and I find it tedious, so we are both in the "Finds it tedious" circle.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#62 - 2014-01-05 11:06:37 UTC
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
Damsel in Distress wrote:
So my account is about to expire and I wondered if there has been any wrap up concering the Somer Blink misconduct.

Tried Forum and Google search but couldn't find a trace of an apology or even an attempt to revert CCPs wrongdoings.

Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.

Apologies if the respective search engines didn't come up with the correct topic, but I'm sure someone can point me to it :).


How the **** has this been worse dev issue that T20. Blowing out of all proportion or what.

Get your head out of your arse and grow up.


Oh and just to be clear, the T20 issue affected EVERYONE on the server.

The Somer issue affects Somer and people who care about such things. Somer made cash on a legitimate process at the time, which is no longer legitimate.

CCP can't take the money back or anything like that as they didn't give it to him so they can't do much more.

SomerBlink still provides a service to people who enjoy it and those that don't due to whatever religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset.
baltoxtdl
TheDarkLegion Inc
#63 - 2014-01-05 11:10:47 UTC
seeing all those Devs going to Riot, which most of em must know of Somerblink issues, some things should be clear.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#64 - 2014-01-05 11:11:03 UTC
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset


What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-01-05 11:11:25 UTC
Who the hell would kidnap this damsel? oO

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#66 - 2014-01-05 11:11:52 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
religion mumbo jumbo or personal experience don't play it then you won't be upset


What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?


They wouldn't care about other people doing it...otherwise they fall into the personal experience section :P
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#67 - 2014-01-05 11:23:48 UTC
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:


They wouldn't care about other people doing it...otherwise they fall into the personal experience section :P



I dont.

I care that there are too many fricking stupid people in the world and Id like to help be responsible for some of them going away permanently.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2014-01-05 11:25:11 UTC
I still think it's a bunch of bull ****. Haven't gone on Somer's site since it turned into an RMT operation.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2014-01-05 11:28:45 UTC
CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-01-05 13:32:46 UTC
Does someone mind telling me what this "outrage" is about please. Been away and missed this whole thing.

A wild guess, is it along the lines of the t2 bpo's?

Dont just [u]think[/u] outside the box, [u]Live[/u] outside of it...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#71 - 2014-01-05 13:36:55 UTC
Prie Mary wrote:


A wild guess, is it along the lines of the t2 bpo's?



You'd think, and many people do think that but it really isnt.

Its about market seeding, GTCs, gambling, lotteries and entitlement, mostly.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#72 - 2014-01-05 17:35:02 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
gambling, lotteries and entitlement

So, I assume a lot of people were personally negatively affected by this, right?

Because we were all forced to participate, and those who aren't shown favoritism in EVE are always at an inherent disadvantage when we undock to do things or play the market, correct?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#73 - 2014-01-05 17:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Logical 101 wrote:

So, I assume a lot of people were personally negatively affected by this, right?

Because we were all forced to participate, and those who aren't shown favoritism in EVE are always at an inherent disadvantage when we undock to do things or play the market, correct?


No, no one was negatively affected, thats the whole point.

And please tell me more about the awesome advantages inherent in owning a IWS.

Unless you are agreeing with my point that its all empty complaining, in which case excuse my tone lol

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2014-01-05 17:40:13 UTC
The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realize the likelyhood of SOMER being run by a CCP alt.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2014-01-05 18:38:52 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realize the likelyhood of SOMER being run by a CCP alt.

This would only make sense if some CCP guy is selling tinfoil for a living

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#76 - 2014-01-05 18:52:53 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence.

Good thing tons of players seem fine with it.

or are just trolling.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#77 - 2014-01-05 18:53:48 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
CCP's final word appears to be a deafening silence.

Good thing tons of players seem fine with it.

or are just trolling.


Honestly, I have never seen what the fuss was about

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-01-05 19:35:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirren D'marr
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Did they get advantage in the past by taking best advantage of CCP's generic policies. Sure, no argument there, did they abuse CCP, no argument there either. But they did it within the rules (Unless someone can prove Dev collusion rather than just tin foil hat because someone else got something shiny). But so could anyone else have gotten themselves into the same position, Somer simply used the tools well.


Using in game accounts for business purposes has always been aginst the rules. It's pretty hard to argue that an operation reported to have brought in over $135K is not a business (this goes way beyond covering monthly server costs). It is also interesting that CCP went silent on the matter about the time the news of these earnings broke.

So yes, I will argue that Somer clearly broke the rules. I have no evidence of dev collusion, but whether there was or not is hardly requisite to identifying Somer's operation as an EULA violation. A violation which I should point out typically earns an immediate ban for all associated accounts. So while there may be no evidence of direct collusion, there is plenty of evidence to imply favorable treatment over others.

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#79 - 2014-01-05 20:06:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What about people who dont gamble because they arent fricking stupid?

What about people that know math and use it as a source of ISK income?
Jasmine Assasin
The Holy Rollers
#80 - 2014-01-05 20:07:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jasmine Assasin
I find all the "Somer madness" to be in the same vein as "Grrr Goons" to be honest. Sorry you can't come up with something better and have an entitlement mentality. I hope CCP doesn't add any more flame to the fire personally. In my opinion anybody that leaves over this fabricated bullcrap would have left for a whole host of other reasons and we are better off without them anyway.