Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This was your first mistake - thinking that Factional Warfare was the only place you can find good PVP. For the record, I almost never found good PVP in FW (yes, I did it several years ago, so perhaps things have changed). FW is where alts go to farm ISK.

Eve is an MMO, in case someone forgot to tell you that. It pays to cooperate with others, not to be a solo player. That is not to say that you cannot find solo PVP opportunities - you just have to look for other honorable space samurai or put other people in a position where they have to fight you.

I find occasional solo PVP opportunities in 0.0 - and not just ganks - usually in interceptors or other small ships. Most of my current solo PVP currently consists of solo roaming and looking for targets I can take down before the cavalry can arrive. Before you look at my killboard and scream "No solo kills!" please bear in mind that this is one of about 6 characters I use for PVP.

Before I joined RAZOR, I used to find good solo PVP in certain 0.0 entry systems - there it was usually a matter of enticing fast tackle off a gate camp to engage me and killing them before their friends could arrive. Additionally, there are quite a few people out there who will honor 1v1's.

Eve is also a game about reputation. If you develop a reputation as someone who is truly solo, people will be more likely to duel with you (not all). You just have to learn who honors 1v1's and who doesn't.

You speak nicely and respectively. The thing is I have played almost all good MMOs and many of them had better PVP than this.Runes of magic in PVP server(epic one vs one ),AION (also nice one vs one and you could fly) , Lineage 2 (simple the king), WOW (very nice but nt for my tastes),fallen earth (kill and survive).I am saying that this game doesn t represents what everyones is saying in forums magazines sites etc.No it s not a PVP game it s just a god sci fi MMO.

...No, if there is any kind of a reward for it, such as the LP you get for FW complexes, we can and will abuse the hell out of the mechanic. This is EVE, it's kind of what people DO.

I've read repeated arguments on these forums that state that EVE is entirely PVP, that all aspects of the game in one way or another constitute PVP.

I disagree with that for several reasons which I won't repeat here but the arguments for are compelling.

However, I've also played many MMO PVP games and I've quit all of them except EVE purely because EVE has the best PVP of any game I've played. I don't play solo though. That's the thing with EVE. Whilst you can play solo the PVP side is best played in groups.

If EVE PVP isn't for you don't worry. There are many other PVP games out there as you've stated. One of those might be more to your tastes if you don't want to adapt. After all, in EVE, you adapt or you die.

I started trying to force 1v1 fights and I died a lot. I then adapted and now have a lot of fun doing PVP. I'm not particularly good at it yet but I have been having a lot of fun improving.

My advice is give it a go with more than just one of you and then decide if that changes your view. If it doesn't, just move onto a game that does do it for you. EVE isn't for everybody.

Good luck in your hunt for your type of PVP.

Well, since the PLEX despawns when you run the button down (Doesn't it?), you'd have to move on anyway.

And really, moving two alts one system over is your ENTIRE counter to LP farming?

PvP doesn't specifically mean 1v1.

This is a game that prizes freedom and choice over everything else.

You want a fight club where players duel 1v1 to see who is the best? You start one... Pssst it's Garmon

You want a place where the game forces fair fights? The WoW arenas are calling your name.

You want a game where winning a battle actually means something more than just a gold star and numbers on a leader board? This is the game for you, but don't expect the game to force the fights to be fair... Those two concepts are mutually exclusive.

Your doing it wrong, there's no revolving door of solo pvp battles out there, you choose your fights, sometimes that might mean waiting for the gangs to fly on by.

I think it's more of an:

PvP isn't good if you get blobbed.

Oh, and he is totally right --> getting blobbed isn't exactly good PvP. Not that I say it's wrong that this happens in EvE.

This is simply not true. If you haven't had such PvP yet, you simply have not played enough PvP. OR you played too much EvE where this is practically impossible :)

Most of the marketing I see shows fleet fights, actually I don't think I've ever seen an add with solo pvp. Having said that I wish there was more solo pvp because fleets last for hours and even in gangs its hard to get balanced fights.