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CrimeWatch: some broken mechanics
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Lich Reaper
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#1 - 2014-01-04 22:57:57 UTC
Hello forum trolls and devs who may be watching,

My alliance and some friends not in alliance have recently been wardec'd by some insignificant group called Mentally Assured Destruction. So, they have never fought against people who could bite back since us, and we have discovered some quite broken features of CrimeWatch while annihilating their 100mn Tengus.

We bring a gang of 2x Scimis with some dps and ewar. We bring the fight to their system, and they come out with 3 neutral Guards. Now, we tell ourselves that these guards will will have suspect and not us, yay!

Strangely, our logi gained a suspect timer because they repped their corpmates, who were shooting at suspect guardians who were repping the war targets.

WTF? Why should our logi get suspect timer for repping corpmates that are shooting the neutral logi of WT? o.0 Although we didnt lose any logi from other neuts in local, it was weird to have gained suspect for no reason.

Also, for some reason, we can't ally ourselves to other wardec'd entities that are from the same alliance. Ex: 2 alliances dec'd by 1 group cant "ally" to not gain suspect when logi is there...

So, I was wondering if this was intended or if this is somewhat broken, because it seems to me that Corp logi should not gain suspect if corpmates start shooting at neutral logi repping WT... lawl

TL;DR

1. Friendly logi gaining suspect timer for repping corpmates that are shooting neutral logi that is repping WT is a stupid mechanic which encourages people not to use logi...?

2. Not being able to ally other wardec'd entities that are at war with the same group makes logi suspect when they are fighting a common enemy...

Can someone enlighten me to these strange mechanics?

o7
-Lich
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-01-04 23:01:30 UTC
This should be moved to C&P for a more personal troll bashing

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-01-04 23:03:43 UTC
Don't play in highsec.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2014-01-04 23:06:58 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Don't play in highsec.

But our pocos

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-01-04 23:09:20 UTC
"Highsec PvP"





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-01-04 23:09:23 UTC
Miniluv can do what it wants. I still think crimewatch is too much crap to deal with.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Genseric Tollaris
Hard Cog Industry
#7 - 2014-01-04 23:50:24 UTC
At least you could shoot the nuet logi. When retribution came out and me and my old corpies went up against wt's the nuet logi didn't go suspect for repping the wt's.
Sid Crash
#8 - 2014-01-05 00:32:32 UTC
Sounds like business as usual; CCP never bothered to learn how combat/pvp actually works because all they do is ice mine and the CSM probably didn't have a clue either.
Brorr Liason
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#9 - 2014-01-05 01:08:53 UTC
This was brought up awhile back and has to do with the limited engagement timer on the ships not associated with the war targets.

When your corpmates fired on the 'suspect' logistics ships they gained a limited engagement timer, when your logi repped them it was flagged as assisting someone with a LE timer instead of recognizing you're in the same corp.

Either save the neutral ships for last if you can or have the logi ships engage the neutrals with drones before repping again... which can be difficult in the middle of a fight. If you're in highsec and repping only your corp, ensure they're set to green safety and it should just turn the reps off and give you a moment to recognize what's going on.



It's a silly mechanic but one we gotta live with until they fix it.