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Guitar / Inspiration

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SeenButNotHeard
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-01 20:21:00 UTC
Am reaching out to see if anyone can help me a little.

I started out as a piano player. Self taught, not necessarily good but I played some nice things that made people sit up.

When I moved house I left my piano behind and due to space restrictions I started playing the guitar. I'm not bad on the frets but I have become very stale - I play the same things, over and over, then put it back down. I don't have the same creativity that I had on the piano.

I wondered if anyone in OOPE had any suggestions for how to boost my guitar-shaped creativity.

I can't really read music although tab is just about in reach. I play mainly by instinct. Main guitar is acoustic atm, though I do have a Mexican Tele with a Trace Elliot amp (no pedals)

Would love to hear if you have found/seen/heard something that has inspired you.

SeenButNotHeard
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-01-01 20:41:33 UTC
After a couple of months not playing my fingers are sore. You lose your pads after a bit.
Matokin Lemant
#3 - 2014-01-01 20:49:09 UTC
I am not a guitar player my self, but I do know that Jesse Ferguson (I am subbed to him on YouTube) does some dam fine work on an acoustic guitar and best of all he plays them in-front of his camera and that should allow you to follow along with him on you guitar.

I hope this helps.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#4 - 2014-01-01 22:02:34 UTC
I've always heard that you can get inspiration by listening to new things.
Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
#5 - 2014-01-02 05:36:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Wrayeth
Personally, I think inspiration can come from a number of sources. For instance, when I started listening to Nightwish I found myself wanting to play guitar again. The music was so melodic while at the same time still heavy that it really caught me.

Additionally, I'd spent years mostly rehashing stuff that was written by other bands, but, after watching some videos by Youtubers 331ERock and FamilyJules7x (they do metal covers of video game and movie music), I suddenly wanted to start writing and recording music myself. The latter actually has a pretty good series of videos about how to do so with Mixcraft Pro Studio 5, and it's disturbingly easy to use.

Since then, I've picked up Mixcraft Pro Studio 6 and started writing and recording my own stuff. I run a cable from the line out on my amp to the line in on my computer's soundcard, and use it in conjunction with the software to record the guitar tracks, then I use the virtual instruments and midi editor that come with Mixcraft Pro Studio to compose and lay down computer-generated bass and drum tracks. I've even dabbled a bit with orchestral sections, though I'm really still learning on that front. Best thing? Mixcraft is only $150, whereas ProTools will run you something ridiculous like $700.

This capability, in short, is what really inspired me to start playing regularly again and to expand my abilities as a musician.

Another thing that's really helped was picking up new gear that allowed me to build the sound I wanted. I've had a Line 6 Flextone Plus amp for years, and the ability to select different amp models and effects was a godsend. I recently upgraded to a Line 6 Spider IV HD 150 and 4x12 cabinet, which offers better sound and more options, all without having to throw out additional cash for effects pedals (though I did spend the money on the FBV Shortboard Mk II so I can control the amp and its many programmable channels and effects with my foot, as well as having a built-in wah/volume pedal).

You may want to head in to a guitar shop and try out various amps to find a sound you like. I've found that I'm not really inspired to play if I don't like the sound coming from my instrument, so having the right guitar and amplifier are truly key. Hell, you can get a little 15-watt Spider IV for $90, which will give you the ability to find the sound you like (it models 16 different amps a crapton of effects) or even switch between amp and sound effects mid-song. If you're willing to spend more money, then going with the 30-watt, 75-watt, or 150-watt versions would probably be better; the 15-watt only has an 8-inch speaker, which doesn't give your low notes much in the way of resonance. The others sport 12-inchers, and the 30w is still only $170-ish.

Word of advice, though, regarding the Spider IV: RTFM. It's got so many different options that figuring out how to use and make the most of it can be rather difficult if you don't. They even have .pdf versions available on the Line 6 website if you want to see what all it can do.

P.S. If you can't tell, I really like Line 6 amps. Lol

P.P.S. I'm also mostly self-taught. So much so that, when I recently used teh intarweb to find out how to do a guitar harmony it felt like cheating. (As an aside, I don't really know any other musicians, so I'd never had the need to learn how to do a 2-part harmony before I started recording and gained the ability to lay down multiple tracks.)
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-01-02 13:36:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Malaclypse Muscaria
I'm also self-taught, and besides trying to play and recreate the sound of certain records I enjoy, messing around with multi-effects boxes have been a great source of inspiration whenever I felt I was falling into a rut.

I've gone through several over the years, but currently I'm using a Line 6 POD HD 500. These modern units are fully integrated with a computer, so you can easily mess around with patches, effects and so on using a nice and easy to use computer program connected to the multi-effect box via USB, instead of having to deal with the unit's tiny screen and awkward knobs, as it used to be.

It's surprising what a new sound coming out of your guitar will do for you in terms of fueling your inspiration, and making you play and come up with new things. Try it!

If you haven't seen it yet, head over to YouTube and watch "It Might Get Loud" (I'm in China right now without access to a VPN, so can't link to it, but it should be easy to find the full documentary there), fascinating stuff.

It features three guitarists, The Edge, Jack White, and Jimmy Page: they talk about their personal histories, how they got into playing guitar, the way it moves them, how they got their sound, and so on and so forth. And besides all this, it features quite a few particular moments I believe you'll also find truly inspiring as a guitar player.

For instance, regarding what I said before about multi-effect boxes: there's a moment when The Edge - who is very well known for his own unique sound, and the way he's made so many interesting things with delays (which he explains in the documentary, as well as his obsession with effects boxes) - is showing off some cool riff he came up with, but then he demonstrates how turning off the effect boxes, what he's actually playing is very simple, pedestrian and "boring" sounding. It's the interplay of the different effects, delays and suchs he's laying on top of his basic guitar sound, that take the riff onto a whole different level and transform it into something interesting.

As a counterpoint to The Edge, you have Jack White, who is obsessed with minimalism, and coming up with something cool using very few and sparse elements (as demonstrated right on the opening scene of the documentary).

Good stuff.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#7 - 2014-01-02 14:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
If you don't mind spending a little cash, lots of things you can do with your computer. Look into line 6 guitar port, about 100 bucks. Ive used a bunch of editors, but for me I like magix music maker and studio, been using it for years and keeping up with latest versions. Forget the wizard, it works every VST I've put to it. Really nice midi editor too. Grab any cheap midi keyboard. I started with a tiny little compact Nano Key for like 40 bucks. Later got a larger Oxygen keyboard. I still use the nano a lot though. Download midi files you like, split the channels, extract the drum loops etc. Assign realistic sounding VST's to them. Plug in the midi keyboard and guitar, hit record heh. Something like that, it's the way to go.

Played guitars for years and years. Guitar lessons/classes and piano lessons/classes. I've played places. But home studios have become real nice the past few years, and lots of bang for the buck.

Oh for VST's, cakewalk VST's are my fav. Lots of free ones out there though, and if you try the magix trial you get some nice ones with that, but cakewalk VST's are all the rage. Z3ta+ 2 and rapture are just too good, but lots of choices there when you are looking for good addons. Of course you could always go with loops, downloading sets of them, but me I like creating my own loops.

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-01-02 15:39:00 UTC
I'm kind of like you OP, I tend to just noodle around and play the same things over and over. A couple of things that have helped me break out of the rut:

-Forcing myself to learn a song, from beginning to end. (I do that using tab). At the end, you've learning new chord progressions, melodic runs, and picking patterns that are outside of your regular routine. Those can inspire you into some new noodlings of your own. Which you might end up playing over and over....

-Learning a more difficult song that's beyond my technical level. Say, one that requires techniques such as string bending, slides, hammer-ons and pull-offs, palm muting, hybrid picking, variations of down picking and up picking, etc. (But maybe not all of those at once-- it doesn't have to be an shred showdown monster like Van Halen "Eruption" heh). Learning a song like that, I just come across so many beautiful guitar tones. Those songs highlight guitar's strongpoint-- you have two hands directly on the string, and you can work that all kinds of ways for all kinds of expressive sounds.
(For a song with a lot of "strings" technique, I try to use professionally-transcribed tab from a guitar magazine like Guitar World. Rather than internet tab. I don't want to get half-way through a song, then find out that the tabber had the intro nailed, but the rest not worked out quite right).
SeenButNotHeard
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-03 01:03:12 UTC
I watched "It might get loud" earlier - that was so enjoyable. Just the amount of variation between the three of them was awesome.

Reminded me that I don't have to conform to enjoy playing the guitar!

I would say a lot more but I am cream-crackered and need to sleep. Big smile
Robby Altair
#10 - 2014-01-03 01:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Robby Altair
Get my best inspiration by taking an open skills guitar course. Being around other guitar players is fun.

Currently using Solos Flamenco by Juan Martin, Diatonic Major and Minor Scales by Andres Segovia, and 120 Studies for Right Hand Development by Mauro Giuliani. As for hammering, and plucking action you can checkout legato studies for guitar(On the internet.).

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Adunh Slavy
#11 - 2014-01-03 20:59:29 UTC
What do you play over and over again?

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#12 - 2014-01-04 20:58:24 UTC
Dont play my self but i came across this guy at some point and i will admit i think it sounds pretty awesome Big smile