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Not great PVP game as it's marketing campraign says
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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#1 - 2014-01-04 18:47:52 UTC
I have said it and I will say it once more.I went to try factional warfare since I was told only in factional warfare I can find good PVP (player vs player and not players vs player) combats.Well at first 3 fights I was excited since I had great one vs one battles even if i lost.After that ,20 combats followed and all were ganging ganging and more ganging.

So in my 20 fights only 3 were one vs one we are talking for a pathetic 10-15%.

Why not gates in factional warfare don t let one ship from each faction to pass only once so they could fight each other?This would make 1 vs 1 real PVP possible.

Why not systems that would allow certain numbers of ships can t be created?

Compared to lineage 2 or other MMOs this is the worst PVP game I have ever tried end really regretting paying for it in first months.

It s current PVP system only allows ganging and nothing more.

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Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#2 - 2014-01-04 18:51:43 UTC
What is this? "The PVP isn't good because there's not enough solo". Seriously?

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#3 - 2014-01-04 18:54:34 UTC
Felsusguy wrote:
What is this? "The PVP isn't good because there's not enough solo". Seriously?


No it isn't.PVP means player vs player and this game doesn 't have it at all.Try other games to see what real PVP means and how fun it is.

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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#4 - 2014-01-04 18:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaerakh
Felsusguy wrote:
What is this? "The PVP isn't good because there's not enough solo". Seriously?


That's pretty much what I read.

Edit: Which is inherently false to begin with. Samurai revenge videos are an excellent illustration.

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Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#5 - 2014-01-04 19:00:09 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
PVP means player vs player and this game doesn 't have it at all.

HAHAHAHAHA.

Good one. At first I thought you were serious, but now I know you're just messing with us. Pirate

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#6 - 2014-01-04 19:12:47 UTC
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.

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Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2014-01-04 19:17:31 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.


This is EVE, not other games.

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Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#8 - 2014-01-04 19:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Felsusguy
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.

1. Didn't you already say that solo PVP fights were good in this game, but that they were hard to find?
2. EVE is the only game I've ever seen with epic fleet battles. That's it thing. Not solo PVP.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-01-04 19:18:54 UTC
ANY system you bring in to try and reward or encourage solo play can and will be abused to hell and back by virtually every EVE player. Just so you know.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#10 - 2014-01-04 19:19:22 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.


Get back to us after watching some of these. Roll
http://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss/videos

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Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#11 - 2014-01-04 19:21:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Felsusguy
Danika Princip wrote:
ANY system you bring in to try and reward or encourage solo play can and will be abused to hell and back by virtually every EVE player. Just so you know.

Danika is correct, Mr. "Alduin".

For example, take your idea...
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Why not gates in factional warfare don t let one ship from each faction to pass only once so they could fight each other?This would make 1 vs 1 real PVP possible.

Only one ship can jump through a stargate at a time? That might discourage roaming fleets, but it will greatly increase the number of gate camping fleets, and those are worse.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-01-04 19:24:17 UTC
Felsusguy wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
ANY system you bring in to try and reward or encourage solo play can and will be abused to hell and back by virtually every EVE player. Just so you know.

Danika is correct, Mr. "Alduin".

For example, take your idea...
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Why not gates in factional warfare don t let one ship from each faction to pass only once so they could fight each other?This would make 1 vs 1 real PVP possible.

Only one ship can jump through a stargate at a time? That might discourage roaming fleets, but it will greatly increase the number of gate camping fleets, and those are worse.



I'm fairly sure he means the acceleration gates on the complex things, which would mean that I send in my alt in the opposing faction, thus locking out anyone hunting me, and get my LP with absolutely nothing even resembling a risk.
Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#13 - 2014-01-04 19:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Felsusguy
Danika Princip wrote:
I'm fairly sure he means the acceleration gates.

Non-specific terms strike again! Though that is worse.

Egravant Alduin wrote:
Why not systems that would allow certain numbers of ships can t be created?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but if I try to take it literally I might lose my sanity.

The Caldari put business before pleasure. The Gallente put business in pleasure.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#14 - 2014-01-04 19:40:01 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Felsusguy wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
ANY system you bring in to try and reward or encourage solo play can and will be abused to hell and back by virtually every EVE player. Just so you know.

Danika is correct, Mr. "Alduin".

For example, take your idea...
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Why not gates in factional warfare don t let one ship from each faction to pass only once so they could fight each other?This would make 1 vs 1 real PVP possible.

Only one ship can jump through a stargate at a time? That might discourage roaming fleets, but it will greatly increase the number of gate camping fleets, and those are worse.



I'm fairly sure he means the acceleration gates on the complex things, which would mean that I send in my alt in the opposing faction, thus locking out anyone hunting me, and get my LP with absolutely nothing even resembling a risk.


Yes, this is what he was asking for and you are spot on as to how it would actually be abused.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#15 - 2014-01-04 19:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Kaerakh wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.


Get back to us after watching some of these. Roll
http://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss/videos


Yes he is great but still where is the one vs one fights?Also he is fleeted many times in his videos

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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-01-04 19:42:12 UTC
Felsusguy wrote:

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but if I try to take it literally I might lose my sanity.


He wants instanced pvp arena systems that only allow the same number of ships to face off against each other in honourable internet spaceship duels.

lol
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-04 19:48:35 UTC
fair fights? equal grounds? honour? This is EVE. People really need to start doing their research

Get some Eve. Make it yours.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#18 - 2014-01-04 19:54:33 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.


Get back to us after watching some of these. Roll
http://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss/videos


Yes he is great but still where is the one vs one fights?


I'm sorry, but that has to be the worst come back I've ever seen. lol I just showed you a series of videos where this guy takes on, by himself more often than not, upwards of 3-5 people at a time(and wins) and your comeback to say EVE pvp is terrible is the say where are the 1v1 fights? I just gave you hard evidence of how amazing EVE pvp is and that there is no one size fits all solution in EVE combat.

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
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#19 - 2014-01-04 20:00:03 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
ANY system you bring in to try and reward or encourage solo play can and will be abused to hell and back by virtually every EVE player. Just so you know.


No it will encourage skilled players to show their potential.Like a fight club or something like that .1 vs 1 .The best holds and wins against many opponents(not at the same time,one vs one)

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#20 - 2014-01-04 20:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Kaerakh wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
So I am the only one who have tried other PVP games and have seen epic one vs one fights like other games have.If that s the truth then I apologize .But people who have tried other games please telle me if i m so wrong about one vs one fights in this game.


Get back to us after watching some of these. Roll
http://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss/videos


Yes he is great but still where is the one vs one fights?


I'm sorry, but that has to be the worst come back I've ever seen. lol I just showed you a series of videos where this guy takes on, by himself more often than not, upwards of 3-5 people at a time(and wins) and your comeback to say EVE pvp is terrible is the say where are the 1v1 fights? I just gave you hard evidence of how amazing EVE pvp is and that there is no one size fits all solution in EVE combat.


Lool again the videos.In 80% of the videos was fleeted and other people were helping him.He is not showing them in overview settings.But still a great pilot to deal with so many people when he was alone i admit that.

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