Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With only a Microwarp drive on and his lasers on, an Omen have 1 minute of capacitor autonomy.
All Amarrs ship must have capacitor modules. In PVP you will use a Capacitor booster, in PVE arechargers and relays.
Other ship don't need that. So Amarr ship are probably the more difficult ships to fit...

In passive tank they are so slow that you will never choose your fight. You will not be able to catch, or to maintain point on your target (even in active tank it is quite hard.) And you will never be able to desengage if you are catched so even if you have a better tank you will finally die to the multiple hostiles.

Guardians and Augorors should be the best of the logistics as they are the only way for an Amarr fleet to take advantage on a faster fleet that will choose the range of the fight. But they are not. They are just more dificcult to fly and to fit than an Oneiros or Exequror.

Of course, the drone Amarr ships with neutralizer and turret disruption bonuses are good. They are quite hard to skill and to use but they are excellent. Because they can cut the propulsion of their target and finally catch it, because they will be able to cut off the hostile scrambler...

But why flying an Omen, Maller, a Harbinger, a Zealot, an Apocalypse, an Abaddon (oh poor Abaddon) a Retribution, a Heretic, a Punisher instead another same class Minmatar, Galente or Caldary ship?

A better capacitor regeneration, really better, could change something. To be able to use your lasers, and your MWD and being stable... To be able to have a neutralizer to and an Afterburner on... To be able to use your lasers and your armor repairer at the same time... Yes it would change something...

If you dont like them fly something else but Amarr ships are brilliant.

Zealots were good now they are largely worse than an Ishtar a Cerberus or a Deimos.... Oracle Pulse are good but what the advantage face to a Tornado or a Naga?
Heretics are so slow and so difficult to fit that you will always choose another interdictor instead...
Guardians and Auggorors have not enough advantages face to Exequror and Oneiros that are easier to fit and to use (not sure for the tank though).

And of course I fly The other races ship. Nearly always in fact. That is not the point. The question is Why Amarr?

The Slicer, Omen Navy are quite good, The Armageddon Navy too. But I don't talk about the navy versions of Amarr ships, that should be compared to navy versions of the other races. Perharps the fact they are more capacitor stable is the reason...

One does not fly Amarr for the power of the ships.

One flies Amarr for the glory of the Faith, and the Golden Light.

Amarr ships in general are tough to use in small gang or solo situations but the resistance bonuses often found on Amarrian hulls make the scale incredibly well when paired with armor links and logistics/triage.

Amarr rarely have 4 mids, this is due to the fact that shield tanking largely becomes viable at 4 mids and Amarr often have sufficient lows that if shield tanking were more viable on them they could use the lows for mobility and damage and lasers will naturally handle the damage projection leading to Amarr kiting fits being too strong. Unfortunately this means you can't fit a prop mod, point, web and cap injector either. With lasers being vulnerable to ships getting under their tracking (pulses track the worst of short range guns) which often makes solo or small gang pvp in Amarr ships somewhat dubious even if not impossible and the problem is further compounded if you don't fit a web.

When you get into fleets of Zealots for example ships might get under your tracking but this doesn't matter much as other Zealots can hit the ship that is holding a tight orbit on you which also compensates for a lack of a drones bay to some extent. Add to that the fact that Zealots get a huge boost to explosive and kinetic damage on their armor meaning the base resistances are very high even without a direct resistance bonus and their damage projection is amazing which is why fleets of them are so effective when paired up with bonuses and guardians. Also there is the Archon, the best carrier in the game, especially for triage; the reason: armor resistance bonus.

If you are looking for what to do with solo Amarr ships an Omen can work. The best idea is to go for a kiting armor fit and it will involve a small cap injector loaded with navy 400s in your third mid. You will have to manage it well to get the most out of the ship but it's surprisingly fast and projects damage quite well.

The same goes for a NOmen which has the extra range from its optimal bonus and is even faster. To use Amarr on small scale you will just have to cap inject, that being said I will often cap inject Thoraxes as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtdmlHcyV9I


this video will show a Navy Omen being used exceptionally

As only an outside observer and EFT warrior when it comes to Amarr, my gut feeling is that lasers need a bit of a buff in terms of cap usage. I could be wrong, but presently they do seem a bit too cap hungry to be honest.

A thorax with only it's blasters and an MWD has all of twenty four seconds more cap, and much, much less range. (25+5 vs 6.3+8.4 using Scorch and Null respectively, since those are both t2 long range ammunition). The Thorax also has one less low for tank/magstabs. It's also slower than the longer ranged Omen. Why would anyone fly Gallente?



Not every ship needs to be identical.

The tormentor and executioner are great, cheap laser hulls, and so is the omen. However, nothing about the maller is suited for solo.