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CORP THIEF - Pablo Fransisco

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Marcus Bosschieter
The Janssens Holding
#1 - 2014-01-04 03:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Bosschieter
Currently in Mystic Nebula, hiding in a so-called family corporation.

Pablo Fransisco is a confirmed corp thief. Proof?
Contact the Diplo Department and Tetragorn [TTGRN] corporation in SpaceMonkey's Alliance [SMA].
Also corporations in current MYLA members' Employment History can be asked, especially the CEOs!

Tetragorn [TTGRN], Brannor Foundries [BRANN], Brannor College [BRCOE], Gravien Enterprises [GRVN] (Founder and CEO too!)

Now looking for new targets to join his corporation.

Full API confirms Pablo had been actively logging in and using his family's characters.
And what family? CCP and EVE does not recognize the institution of families. We are all just subscribed players.
Family can be good, can be bad, just like in real-life, all those gangster dinasties.

Avoid MYLA, protect your resources and assets from these people.

Since character usage of Lynn Naari and Daniah Furna characters were confirmed by Pablo Fransisco, we may just never know, who did and what.

Do learn from this how RL family relations can be abused in a game.

Avoid MYLA!

Now officially blacklisted:
http://i.imgur.com/z6GtbzP.png
https://www.fatal-ascension.com/?action=blacklist
Peace Forgiven
Bioglitch Capital Logistics Inc.
#2 - 2014-01-04 03:58:49 UTC
These are the Family characters pablo uses to commit his crimes. Please protect yourself, your allies and your assest and set these names as red.

Pablo Fransisco
Plusebo Starblade
Samael Nindala
Zeofox Shadowsun
Morgan Belani
Miaowi Mgee
Maesk'en Morray
Lynn Naari
Daniah Furna
Capt'n Planet
Morgan Belani
Alluna Nox
Alexia Arrmar
Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-01-04 04:07:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani
As Brannor Foundries [BRANN] CEO, and Tetragorn's [TTGRN] CFO I can only confirm the above statements.

Petition to CCP also confirmed that it was a well prepared corp theft by multiple players.

Multiple: Pablo Fransisco as main and Plusebo Starblade also Morgan Belani and Capt'n Planet as alts.

Before spreading the word, contact the people in charge in SMA Diplo Department and Directors of Tetragorn.

Avoid this person and corporations he's leading or he's in. Protect your assets!
Chiara Shahni
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-04 04:16:36 UTC
spreading word among marketeers and corperations
nieuws travel fast this way too

trade hub locals here we come!

bests,
Chiara
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2014-01-04 06:20:16 UTC
Did you really need to use three other alts to back your original claim What?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-01-04 06:22:59 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Did you really need to use three other alts to back your original claim What?


I don't see alts in this post.
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2014-01-04 06:27:36 UTC
Alt #2 wrote:

I don't see alts in this post.


FTFY Blink

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-01-04 08:30:07 UTC
Post with your alts or it never ha......oh wait you already did Oops Must all be true then. care to tell us what he/they got away with? It will fuel our righteous indignation and ensure justice is done.
Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-01-04 13:46:41 UTC
Christian Lionbate wrote:
Post with your alts or it never ha......oh wait you already did Oops Must all be true then. care to tell us what he/they got away with? It will fuel our righteous indignation and ensure justice is done.


BPOs were acquired by corp members and directors.
The corp mined ice and did PI do fuel blocks for the POS-es that did the research.

Researched BPOs were taken - value increase total estimate ~50bil ISK
As part of the trick, the cheaper ones were replaced with unresearched ones.

Tetragorn has the rule that anything ending up in a corp hangar or used for corp purposes becomes a corp asset from that moment on. No one forced anyone to donate anything. Pablo actively played the air guitar but was doing research only for himself. Also took further items from corp hangars that never belonged to him.

In the end we have to believe this was planned from the beginning. The massive PLEX sales we've seen were to build up all of this. Also this guy pretended a "hack" to cover his ass in front of his own RL family. But the Transaction History and marketeer information confirmed what we believed in.

A good story to tell in the future to learn how family relations are abused. Taking over his brother's characters was probably part of the plan.

Lesson learned, we picked up the pieces and now moving on, while many of my contacts learning the truth are preparing for a nice purge. The cowardness levels of MYLA are awesome. 1 EVE Mail was enough to stir up the corp. A Dread Guristas Medium Tower was immediately taken down, replaced by a Caldari one. And no POS defenses set up...

We consider the theft to be a bill, a bill of 50bil ISK.
We negated 12.2bil ISK since we managed to catch the guy: https://zkillboard.com/detail/33891165/
The valueable items and relative lack of knowledge of game mechanics makes this corp suitable for wardecs, regular ganking and other game elements.

People think it's just easy to get away with things. Part of EVE Online doesn't believe in it and wishes to protect players from further such events. And no worries, the clouds are already gathering.

People expect us to honour and respect the way they are playing a game. No problems with that.
But don't expect anyone to tolerate your actions and don't think that everyone around you is brainless.

By our investigation we have protected a larger amount of corp assets. 50bil is not the end of the world, but as we said: "The bill will be handed in." So the chase continues until a total loss of 50bil ISK is caused to MYLA, after that they can go where they want.

This is the reason this thread exists. Protecting the people from a crime gang.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-01-04 15:47:52 UTC
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

Lexica Tarnish
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-01-04 15:49:56 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.


I hereby confirm this post as undeniable truth.
Telar Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-04 15:51:45 UTC
Lexica Tarnish wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.


I hereby confirm this post as undeniable truth.


Both of these posts are hard fact.
Marcus Bosschieter
The Janssens Holding
#13 - 2014-01-04 16:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Bosschieter
Telar Nardieu wrote:
Lexica Tarnish wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.


I hereby confirm this post as undeniable truth.


Both of these posts are hard fact.


1. Thieves? We're not the ones who committed corp thefts, or ganked people or robbed from people.
2. Spies? Sure, never hide facts, we were created to actively report on MYLA's actions, report on key positions, organize wardecs. If this is considered spying, than yes, The Janssens are spies.
3. Awoxers? I'd recommend to check on killboards. No ship destruction, no gank, just active gameplay. We remember contracting cheap Procurers to people when ganks occured on CODE is power [CODE5], we remember providing people intel on gankers (Refer to Number 2 as Spies)
4. Worse? Nothing can be worse when you trust someone and the given person steals a lot from you.Nothing can be worse to a miner reading a blog on respecting miners than the next minute the author of the blog ganks...

Thank you for confirming that The Janssens are what they are. We were born with a purpose and through our puppet masters we will carry out our plan!
Escobar Slim III
YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS
#14 - 2014-01-04 17:17:20 UTC
Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale
Her infinite horse. ~ Sir Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani Esq.
Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#15 - 2014-01-04 18:53:28 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.




Can confirm.

OP must be calling out others to cover up his own misdeeds.


Shame on you OP

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Floren Bosschieter
The Janssens Holding
#16 - 2014-01-04 19:05:19 UTC
Jack Lennox wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.




Can confirm.

OP must be calling out others to cover up his own misdeeds.


Shame on you OP


Too bad an entire diplo department knows elsewise. Not to mention alliance and corporation directors.

OP's own misdeeds... interesting. So Pablo steals from a corp... several players create a corp to revenge.

And you're talking about our misdeeds. You screw with someone in EVE and you're surprised that you're striken against.

Very interesting opinion I must say.

You know what? Why don't you join them? Or invite them to your corp!
And when your BPOs disappear, you can think what you can think...

Kind Regards,
Floren
Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-04 19:33:17 UTC
2. Spies? Sure, never hide facts, we were created to actively report on MYLA's actions, report on key positions, organize wardecs. If this is considered spying, than yes, The Janssens are spies.

Spies and BPO's? That's a recipe for disaster. Spies are, by nature, fundamentally dishonest so your complaining about an, allegedly, dishonest person in your corp who, quite frankly, kicked your butts in the role you created for your selves is quite absurd. I suggest you grow up and move on, I'm sure your former corp m8, hats off to him/her, has already done so.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-01-04 19:33:22 UTC
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Gavrell Ambrosius Morritani
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-01-04 20:46:57 UTC
I guess Marcus and Floren did their job. Spread the word.
Who and what believes afterwards. We can't afford to care. We cannot be responsible of what people do with the information at their hands. It's upon the people's free will.

Debating is unnecessary, in a way I can agree with Christian. Stepping forward is one of the good ways.
Though... it's again upon the people's free will what they do. Some people think that stepping forward without any counter-action is the best. I wonder if they had been in such situations. I doubt it.

Growing up... hat's raised... interesting expressions. In the end of the day we still sit down with our own circles and plan and discuss what we wish.

Is it considered to be an error that Marcus brought this to the public's attention?
Not really. Read any newspaper, watch any news programme on TV, still your choice to believe or not what you see.

There was a corp theft, one of the most frequent events in EVE - so game mechanicswise normal.
CCP says up to the point items are taken via game mechanics they cannot do anything other than confirm or deny suspicions and answer questions as a totally neutral party.

We had our discussions, gathered information, even petitioned CCP for some information we didn't know before.
Our conclusion was what Marcus shared with you. Anyone else thinks different, fine. One thing we cannot be blaimed for, that we didn't pull this thread up as a warning.

This thread will stand as a memorial. A constant reference, nothing more.
As for Marcus, Floren and the other in The Janssens... nothing will prevent them from carrying out their plan we ordered them to perform.

Neutrality and ignorance - two best weapons of thieves... just like in RL. You read the news, some gang robbed this and that amount, you shrug and switch channels. Once it happens to you... other people will shrug... and switch channels.

Same as I've seen this here among some comments.

Thank you all for reading, sharing, putting up Likes.
We did what we could do forumwise. Next step: ingame.
Fly Safe o/
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-01-04 21:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Floren Bosschieter wrote:
Jack Lennox wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
This post is to warn people that Marcus Bosschieter and all members of the Jannsenns (sp?) are theives, spies, awoxers, and worse.




Can confirm.

OP must be calling out others to cover up his own misdeeds.


Shame on you OP


Too bad an entire diplo department knows elsewise. Not to mention alliance and corporation directors.

OP's own misdeeds... interesting. So Pablo steals from a corp... several players create a corp to revenge.

And you're talking about our misdeeds. You screw with someone in EVE and you're surprised that you're striken against.

Very interesting opinion I must say.

You know what? Why don't you join them? Or invite them to your corp!
And when your BPOs disappear, you can think what you can think...

Kind Regards,
Floren


I am making this post as proof that the Janssen's "entire diplo department" is in on this conspiracy, and will rob you of all your things, and probably kidnap your firstborn while they are at it.

edit: I forgot my proof. Notice the bounty of undeniable evidence I lay before you, do not risk it, these people are dirty scoundrels that will stop at nothing to take everything you have.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

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