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Radial Menu - action mapping

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Kenshi Hanshin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#281 - 2013-11-27 02:37:37 UTC
Thank you very much for the radial menus so far! I would really like to see the concept expanded as it is a lot easier for me to use than drop-down menus. Especially at speed and reliably while in a stressful and intense situations such as PvP.
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#282 - 2013-12-03 23:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: helana Tsero
I like the radial menu.

Id like to see the concept expanded so we can hide/make transparent more elements of the ui and only use the radial menu and the overview. (and scanner / chat windows as appropriate)

Eve looks so awesome without all the excel spreadsheets and ancient ship control / shield / armor / module display.

When I want to I pull up the needed UI elements or when something happens eg i take damage or activate a module then parts of the ship control ui area becomes untransperant.

Hovering over a transparent UI area would also causse it to become visible.

Give me the ability to hide the anoying targeting cross lines and other targeting stuff. I want to see the ships not red crosses.

In other news / ui request
I set all my ui that I can to be transperant. Could we have an option to make the background of a window black on the ui elements top bar. just so if i cant see something i can make it black and super visible for a second

"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave."  | zoonr-Korsairs |

Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |

helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#283 - 2013-12-03 23:48:03 UTC
Another Radial menu request - Action mapping'

Let me use the Radial menu on my ship when I am cloaked !

I live in a WH so Im cloaked 90% of the time !

"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave."  | zoonr-Korsairs |

Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |

Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#284 - 2013-12-12 05:40:17 UTC
Now that you guys actually have me reading F&I, I'd like to comment here that as a mouse-only-whenever-possible-because-I-need-a-beer-hand-free player, I'm a fan of the radial menu. It has become primary in almost everything I do on a day to day basis.

The only place I'm wishing it existed and it currently doesn't is in the survey scanner results window. It's a simple enough task to right click there and lock instead but once you've become accustomed to using the radial menu, the expected behavior is to have a radial option there also.

And I've seen several comments regarding players disliking the radial menu because it "gets in the way when panning the camera" and/or issues when undocking from a station (which both may be referring to the same phenomenon.) I have to concur. Far too many times, I've re-docked or would have redocked if there weren't a timer preventing me from doing so because the radial pops up when exiting certain stations. The camera is so zoomed in upon undocking that you must pan since all available screen is usually station. Unfortunately, it isnt an issue with every station which is why not everyone is experiencing this. But some, like ministry of war, for example, where you usually exit from the top gives a downward camera view, and the necessary response is to pan upward - which is right where the dock icon is on the radial menu. It's not that big of a deal, and since it works well in every other aspect, I wouldn't want to adjust the delay as I only undock a few times a day as opposed to the number of times it works well in space. But I guess it's worth mentioning since it has happened to me too.

YK
S4nn4
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#285 - 2013-12-14 22:52:12 UTC  |  Edited by: S4nn4
I quite like the radial menu. But it can still be improved on. Here are some tweaks I would find helpful:


-I don't want orbit and keep at range next to the second layer button. When I am in a rush it's annoying to get into the sub menu by mistake.


-I would also prefer to have all the "i'm in a hurry" selections on the lower half as I find these quicker to reach. Using a compass as comparison, something like (but it's not ideal, haven't really thought it through):
W: lock/unlock
SW: warp
S: align
SE: orbit
E: keep at range
and N being the submenu.
lock and warp are nice beside eachother because it makes it harder to unlock something by mistake, and if it's close enough to lock it can't be warped to (except in rare cases)
Actually, it's probably best to be able to configure their locations, as someone already said.


-Having the info button on the main layer doesn't feel quite right either. When I use the radial menu I am more interested in issuing commands fast, it's an alternative to hotkeys. I definately don't have time to read something when I use it, nor do I want a new window to pop up by mistake.


-Also, colors on some of the buttons could help too. I recognize colors faster than I recoginze pictures. Not bright colors however, just faint shades of them. And only on those commands that are used in stressful situations. Like green-ish for warp, blue-ish for align, yellow-ish for keep at range, orange-ish for orbit and red-ish for lock. Some color blind people might have different ideas about that though.
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#286 - 2013-12-20 20:30:32 UTC
I'm loving the radial menus.

That said, some of the actions, the one that catches me offguard atm, is that some functions like "Scoop to cargobay / dronebay" sometimes appear at different positions on the radial menu (sometimes behind the additional options + button). It'd be great if they were made more conformed, with similar commands appearing in the same places on different menus. (Target almost always appear at the bottom of the radial circle for example).
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#287 - 2013-12-31 12:14:09 UTC
Hey guys - could you please change radial menu's so that I don't get a radial menu every time I click on the scanner button?
Most of the time - the one I want is the one I just closed down, which is exactly what you get if you use keyboard shortcuts.
When it's not - that's when I'd want radial menu, on my 3rd or 4th mouse button - just where it is for the rest of them, thanks muchly.

This possible?
Xe

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Coyote Laughing
#288 - 2014-01-04 09:51:25 UTC
The radial menu is simply awful, it can pop up during lag and you can wind up orbiting an object 20km away before control is returned.

The amount of time you wait while it opens, before allowing you to select an option is simply too long.

I have lagged out several times attempting to warp in Jita simply because the pop up menu does not respond.

l8r \o/

Memory Shaper
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#289 - 2014-01-08 12:09:11 UTC
I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly.
Theon Severasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#290 - 2014-01-08 12:33:12 UTC
Memory Shaper wrote:
I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly.


It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#291 - 2014-01-08 13:13:01 UTC
Theon Severasse wrote:
Memory Shaper wrote:
I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly.


It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha

It's in the ESC menu, under General, bottom of the center column there

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Memory Shaper
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#292 - 2014-01-08 17:35:37 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Theon Severasse wrote:
Memory Shaper wrote:
I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly.


It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha

It's in the ESC menu, under General, bottom of the center column there


THANKS!!
FoxFire Ayderan
#293 - 2014-01-14 02:34:43 UTC
Oh hey, I just noticed this thread.

And I just posted two new threads on Radial menu ideas I had. It's quite possible they've already been touched on here, but I don't want to read through 15 pages! Wow.

So I read the 1st and last page. I will link the threads I started for these brief ideas.

Activate modules on targets from Radial Menu: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=312476&find=unread

Adjust Approach Speed from Radial Menu: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=312485&find=unread

Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#294 - 2014-01-17 06:15:15 UTC
the action mapping is pretty cool but what i would like is way to turn it on or off it gets rather annoying in pvp when the action mapping pops up when ypou already have hot keys set up to do what ya need. i do not need a secondary system. its annoying. please come up with something to turn it off.

thank you
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
#295 - 2014-01-23 22:59:13 UTC
Too many pages to read now. But when I'm cloaked the radial menu won't show up when trying to activate it on my ship.

Is there another place (HUD, other UI) where the ship radial menu will open?

To be honest I hardly ever use the radial menu. Only do for scanner, about half the time. Other half I use Alt-D.
Arden Bastilla
Dead Or Alive Inc.
#296 - 2014-01-29 03:15:16 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
I know this may be far fetched, but a Fleet Command section with "Warp Fleet" and similar would be great. I don't know where you'd squeeze it....

Ugh


I would say squeeze it in on the fleet window. When you activate the radial menu from the fleet menu you get all the fleet options.

You could expand that to useful options from the Watchlist.
Alex Tutuola
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#297 - 2014-02-06 19:00:15 UTC
I'm aware I'm a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say that I love the radial menu. If you know what you're doing with it, it becomes VERY convenient for flying frigate and cruiser size vessels. Much quicker than right click menu, and more exact.

Thank you.
Hiljah
Foo Holdings
AL3XAND3R.
#298 - 2014-02-11 20:32:09 UTC
Can I edit the radial menu?

If not, are there plans for this to happen?

Or is CCP opposed to this?

I'm trying to decide if it is worth learning.
If it is just another menu with too many options I don't want it.
Hiljah
Foo Holdings
AL3XAND3R.
#299 - 2014-02-11 21:45:02 UTC
Hiljah wrote:
Can I edit the radial menu?

If not, are there plans for this to happen?

Or is CCP opposed to this?

I'm trying to decide if it is worth learning.
If it is just another menu with too many options I don't want it.



I already use ctrl-click to target and I don't want that as a primary action (assuming it is), shouldn't I be able to change this or even remove it?

Other people may only want target on the menu, shouldn't they be able to?

Why would you try to decide what should be primary or even on the menu, no one is going to agree.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#300 - 2014-02-18 13:16:14 UTC
Also I'd like to see the RM available in station for the ship e.g. cargo hold, drone bay, show info.

If you're going to declare war on right-click CCP karkur then don't chest barge it, smack it in the face Blink