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Thirty plus Procurer botlike armada in Osmon ice belts.

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Chicknhawk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-03 14:05:19 UTC
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.
Savnire Jacitu
Abysmal Gentlemen
#2 - 2014-01-03 14:07:55 UTC
40 mil....try much much much higher.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#3 - 2014-01-03 14:08:21 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-03 14:15:20 UTC
Chicknhawk wrote:
...depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice...
What?

Are you playing Eve?
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#5 - 2014-01-03 14:18:45 UTC
Must be new to Eve if he thinks 40 million will get rid of the perceived menace.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#6 - 2014-01-03 14:24:55 UTC
Chicknhawk wrote:
Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.

So while you poor miners have nothing to do because he got all the ice, why don't you stay up to the guy, take the piles of AFK ISK you earned before and suicide gank that freighter? If you need some advice how to do this I am sure we can help you.

You could also start to bump his mining ships out of range. This way you don't lose sec status.
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/become-agent.html

If you really want to gank his ships, start by learning how the game works:
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/blog-page.html

And believe me when I tell you it will be fun for a change.

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Tebizla
#7 - 2014-01-03 14:30:01 UTC
I lol'd a bit.

Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ...
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-01-03 14:30:58 UTC
Chicknhawk wrote:
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.


Are they in a player corp or NPC corp? If its wardeccable just contact our corp and we might do it by the cost of the war dec only if they are so easy to find.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-01-03 14:31:04 UTC
The Great Osmon Menace of 2014.

All your Ice are belong to us. Make your time.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2014-01-03 14:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Chicknhawk wrote:
depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice.
Welcome to competition. There are no “shares”.
It isn't theirs until and unless it's in their cargo holds.

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Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.
Heh… yeah, you're probably going to need to add a zero or two onto that before anyone bites. Lol
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#11 - 2014-01-03 14:32:06 UTC
a freighter has what... 400k ehp? to kill it would take a considerable number of ships.

one thing about it is you're goinf to find that ice isn't really worth enough to pay for the ships used to gank. The thing that makes his operation profitable is the above issue and the fact that he is depriving his competition of resources. The combination of pushing others out through the speed of his fleet and the low return on offensive action means killing him probably isn't worth it actually.
Chicknhawk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-01-03 14:33:01 UTC
Just like I said, beside me there would be dozens of other miners who are more than willing to pitch in, so the end sum would be real decent. Besides there are enough of enthusiast groups in Eve like Goons who'd be more than willing and happy to do it for free.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#13 - 2014-01-03 14:33:52 UTC
maybe you should mine ice somewhere else and not be such a little girl about it?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2014-01-03 14:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
a freighter has what... 400k ehp? to kill it would take a considerable number of ships.
Nah. Around 200. You can get some of the JFs up to 400 if you slave it up.

Chicknhawk wrote:
Besides there are enough of enthusiast groups in Eve like Goons who'd be more than willing and happy to do it for free.
They do it for the money, though.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#15 - 2014-01-03 14:36:43 UTC  |  Edited by: The Legendary Soldier
Tippia wrote:
Chicknhawk wrote:
depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice.
Welcome to competition. There are no “shares”.
It isn't theirs until and unless it's in their cargo holds.


Even then, it's still open for discussion :p

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2014-01-03 14:39:18 UTC
The Legendary Soldier wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It isn't theirs until and unless it's in their cargo holds.

Even then, it's still open for discussion :p

Weeeell… it's theirs at that point, but it's not like it's a permanent state…

I suppose “discussion” could be a euphemism of sorts. Twisted
Chicknhawk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-01-03 14:40:44 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Chicknhawk wrote:
Osmon has three ice belts, once they spawn it takes literally hours to mine them, so everyone gets their fair share of ice. Not anymore. Recently Osmon received huge 30+ Procurer barge vacuum cleaner armada, that bot is online 24/7, takes him less than an hour to empty all Ice belts, depriving all the ice miners of their shares of ice. CCP seems not to notice the problem.
Bot armada has Fenrir freighter ploted by Luckysentry and is protected by a Stabber cruiser piloted by Matthew Decker.

Since problem is ignored, I am offering to pitch in 40 mil isk to a group of mercenaries to get rid of that insolent greedy problem, bunch of other Osmon miners are also willing to contribute financially.

Name of the game is attrition, freighters are very expensive to replace, once you kill enough of them, that insolent exploiter will leave Osmon for good.


Are they in a player corp or NPC corp? If its wardeccable just contact our corp and we might do it by the cost of the war dec only if they are so easy to find.



I believe Procurers are all NPC corp members actually. Procurer pilots dont have surnames, only firstnames. All are less than two weeks old.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#18 - 2014-01-03 14:46:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
a freighter has what... 400k ehp? to kill it would take a considerable number of ships.

one thing about it is you're goinf to find that ice isn't really worth enough to pay for the ships used to gank. The thing that makes his operation profitable is the above issue and the fact that he is depriving his competition of resources. The combination of pushing others out through the speed of his fleet and the low return on offensive action means killing him probably isn't worth it actually.
200k tops. You can overkill it with like 25 T1 catalysts, or like 15 T2s (ballpark tilted towards safety, I can't remember the exact numbers). So that would be like 75m-150m to execute the gank.

That said, if he has 30 miners on ice with orca support, he can replace a freighter ever 2 hours with change.

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-01-03 14:49:44 UTC
Miners aren't particularly sexy. :/

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Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-01-03 14:53:22 UTC
Some of your available options:

1) Smartbomb the procurer fleet or target the freighter.
2) Make a thread, instill rage on fellow Osmon miners, get them to contribute to the "mercenary pot" and walk away with it.
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