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High sec pirates and mission runners, be aware of this tactic.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#141 - 2014-01-02 22:40:02 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
So, should missions be reconfigured to being do-able in PVP configurations?


They've been talking about this for years...

Bacon makes us stronger
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#142 - 2014-01-02 22:40:44 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
And why should one sociopathic loser be able to cause you that much trouble in high sec anyway?

...

Because girls just wanna have fun?

Nerf Burger wrote:
Don't you clowns have a single decent argument?

Obviously not, so why keep slamming your head against this particularly hard wall?
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#143 - 2014-01-02 22:42:18 UTC
Logical 101 wrote:
Because girls just wanna have fun?


FITE ME IRL

Bacon makes us stronger
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#144 - 2014-01-02 22:42:51 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Logical 101 wrote:
Because girls just wanna have fun?

FITE ME IRL

GRRR FISTICUFFS
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2014-01-03 00:22:38 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


A magnificent example of arguing from ignorance


Thank you, I'm glad you noticed the last line of my post. I'm saddened you didn't add anything, but another poster later did, which I found helpful and would lead to delicious tears on the part of the pirate.

If you think I was complaining, you were wrong.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2014-01-03 01:30:40 UTC
I'm sorry that it took me so long to realize that we are falling for a troll here ... :(

Can you forgive me?

Please........ I'll do anything...................

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2014-01-03 01:43:26 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Since this is not an isolated case and is happening 24/7 now, seems to me it's definitely being exploited.

Eventually Cosmos missions will get updated / fixed. When that will happen largely depends on the amount of petitions CCP receives from the mission running player base.. Situations and issues like this definitely need to be brought to the attention of the Eve Community and more importantly, to CCP themselves.

This thread would have been a lot more beneficial if it had been posted in the sub forum - Missions & Complexes. General Discussion is pretty much Troll Central filled with a lot of high brow thug mentality, constantly spouting their pompous opinions and gang banging on any who oppose.

By the way, the snarky remarks from CSM posted in this thread is a typical example of a self serving attitude that's only concerned with issues that affect themselves. In my opinion that behavior contradicts with the position of CSM as a Community Representative.



DMC

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#148 - 2014-01-03 06:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Nerf Burger wrote:
And why should one sociopathic loser be able to cause you that much trouble in high sec anyway?
How does playing the game as intended make one a sociopath?

Quote:
Don't you have a single decent argument?
Tons. You just can't respond to any of them so you have to use abuse as your last (failed) attempt at being relevant to the discussion.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Since this is not an isolated case and is happening 24/7 now, seems to me it's definitely being exploited.
Do you have any proof to support these assertions?
What's the exploit? What's broken and in need of fixing?

Quote:
By the way, the snarky remarks from CSM posted in this thread is a typical example of a self serving attitude that's only concerned with issues that affect themselves
Pointing out glaringly obvious flaw is someone's argumentation is not really snarky. Oh, and if you dislike that attitude so much, why is it the only one you ever adopt?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#149 - 2014-01-03 07:27:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Nerf Burger wrote:
By the way, the snarky remarks from CSM posted in this thread is a typical example of a self serving attitude that's only concerned with issues that affect themselves

Nerf Burger wrote:
And why should one sociopathic loser be able to cause you that much trouble in high sec anyway?

By the way, the snarky remarks from Nerf Burger posted in this thread is a typical example of a self serving attitude that's only concerned with issues that affect themselves

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#150 - 2014-01-03 10:02:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

No it's spectacularly sensible, and full credit for CCP on not compromising on this core principle.

What would be spectacularly dumb would be "fixing" this feature and treating mission runners as some kind of special chosen-kind who may not be touched or interfered with, unlike every other profession in EVE.


How the hell are you a CSM?

The mind boggles.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#151 - 2014-01-03 10:15:22 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

No it's spectacularly sensible, and full credit for CCP on not compromising on this core principle.

What would be spectacularly dumb would be "fixing" this feature and treating mission runners as some kind of special chosen-kind who may not be touched or interfered with, unlike every other profession in EVE.

How the hell are you a CSM?

By saying sensible like that without trying to coddle people by being overly diplomatic towards their bad ideas.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#152 - 2014-01-03 10:31:57 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
As with any mission, failure to complete results in a massive standing hit.


Failure to complete results in no standing loss as long as you haven't failed any other missions in the last 4 hours.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2014-01-03 10:44:40 UTC
So many wankers in this thread. :/

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#154 - 2014-01-03 10:57:52 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Since this is not an isolated case and is happening 24/7 now, seems to me it's definitely being exploited.

Eventually Cosmos missions will get updated / fixed. When that will happen largely depends on the amount of petitions CCP receives from the mission running player base.. Situations and issues like this definitely need to be brought to the attention of the Eve Community and more importantly, to CCP themselves.

This thread would have been a lot more beneficial if it had been posted in the sub forum - Missions & Complexes. General Discussion is pretty much Troll Central filled with a lot of high brow thug mentality, constantly spouting their pompous opinions and gang banging on any who oppose.

By the way, the snarky remarks from CSM posted in this thread is a typical example of a self serving attitude that's only concerned with issues that affect themselves. In my opinion that behavior contradicts with the position of CSM as a Community Representative.



DMC

Exploit? Good lord. It's been a while since I saw a post as bad as this one.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#155 - 2014-01-03 11:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Aramatheia
Quote:
Stealing or threatening to blow up required mission items is safe and easy


well that needs a nerf then, since when is anything allowed to be safe and easy in eve!
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#156 - 2014-01-03 13:22:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

No it's spectacularly sensible, and full credit for CCP on not compromising on this core principle.

What would be spectacularly dumb would be "fixing" this feature and treating mission runners as some kind of special chosen-kind who may not be touched or interfered with, unlike every other profession in EVE.

How the hell are you a CSM?

By saying sensible like that without trying to coddle people by being overly diplomatic towards their bad ideas.


And exactly this, I voted for Mal not because he was in 'INIT', but because he 'Gets It' (lol). Blunt, straight forward, no BS, just raw truth. Truth till it hurts.

Sooooo many squishy, squeamish , oversensative 'mommy he hurt mah feelins' types around and can deal with how Mal slings it it's really kind of crazy to me given the nature of the game we all play ie you'd think these folks that can't handle a little meaningless internet rough housing would make game choices other than EVE.

*paid for by the committee to re-elect Malcanis whether he likes it or not*
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2014-01-03 13:24:34 UTC
Aramatheia wrote:
Quote:
Stealing or threatening to blow up required mission items is safe and easy


well that needs a nerf then, since when is anything allowed to be safe and easy in eve!

It's only easy because people choose to make it easy for them.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#158 - 2014-01-03 15:32:31 UTC
Meh, I have yet to see a GM refusing to reset a mission for practically no reason whatsoever. It costs them nothing.

On the other hand, COSMOS must hold some kind of trophy for being the EVE feature that has been neglected for the longest period of time without being scrapped. Any change to this, would be quite surprising.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#159 - 2014-01-03 15:46:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Meh, I have yet to see a GM refusing to reset a mission for practically no reason whatsoever. It costs them nothing.

On the other hand, COSMOS must hold some kind of trophy for being the EVE feature that has been neglected for the longest period of time without being scrapped. Any change to this, would be quite surprising.


yea, its silly how long these poorly designed game mechanics take to get fixed. I find it funny, all the same nonsensical forum clowns, repeatedly stammering with that overused catch-all, that EVE is supposed to be a "harsh and dangerous environment" while simultaneously ignoring the fact that high-sec pirates are able conduct these activities with essentially zero risk and extremely negligible costs should they fail. According to my detractors, "its fine!", and "harsh and dangerous environment" isn't supposed to apply to high-sec piratesRoll

Fortunately CCP has been showing progress lately in fixing these poorly designed mechanics. Can flipping and miner ganking got fixed. Isn't it about time for COSMOS missions? The EVE grief monkeys have had it far too easy for far too long.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#160 - 2014-01-03 16:28:09 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:
As with any mission, failure to complete results in a massive standing hit.


Failure to complete results in no standing loss as long as you haven't failed any other missions in the last 4 hours.


Huh? Once a mission is accepted, it's accepted. Not completing an accepted mission is not the same as declining a mission. The former results in a significant standings loss, the other does not provided it's done outside the 4 hour mission timer. At least, that is my understanding of it.

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