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[Proposal] Swordfighting in Stations

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-23 01:06:45 UTC
Dear friends, I think it is time that we focused on the new features that are being released with this winter's expansion to our favourite MMO. We have been told that all the racial captains quarters are being released, and that means that full-on Incarna v2.0 is just around the corner. I can't wait to walk in stations, but before we get to that we need to take a look at how we're each going to defend our rusty space hovels. I believe that the best way possible is for each racial captains quarters to come equipped with a weapon rack which could be placed on a wall somewhere, and would come standard with an array of racially themed killing implements that would be safe to use in the confines of a space station without worrying about blasting a hole in the hull. To that end, I am pretty sure things like space daggers and space katanas will be the order of the day, and I am prepared with a list of reasons why this makes perfect sense.

First, as previously mentioned it appeals to those among the science fiction fandom who realize the intrinsic issues with fire arms on a space ship or space station. Explosives and lasers and projectiles that blast or shoot holes in things are a very bad idea on an contained platform whose purpose of keeping an atmosphere inside of it is greatly hindered by being ruptured. Put bluntly a sharp bladed instrument is far less dangerous for the integrity of the space vessel than is a fire arm.

Second, the inclusion of swords and swordfighting mechanics will appeal to a wide audience of people ranging from the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy MMO player who enjoys World of Warcraft and rolling twelve-sided dice, to the budding Star Trek fan who was quite impressed by Sulu's ability to wield a telescopic katana in the most recent movie. On that note, we should totally allow switchblade and telescopic versions of pretty much any sword that is introduced so as to provide functional differences in their performance. You could even modify the stats of certain other weapons to compensate! Imagine a whole new realm of customized items.

Third, the addition of the sword specifically as a melee weapon associated with honour and chivalry allows for the time-honoured practice of the space bushido warrior code to be fully exemplified in a modern day samurai: now, one can literally have an honour duel with another player, all thanks to the presence of a sword. And if one is slighted in some way, or feels that one has failed in his service to his feudal space lord, then one can commit space seppuku.

Fourth, swords and combat would allow CCP to further develop the Carbon framework that can be used in later iterations of EVE Online and other products to include DUST and WOD.

I am sure there are more reasons, to include how stylishly a katana goes with a neckbeard, but I think I will stop there for now and open the floor for comment by my fellow space citizens of New Eden.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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spookydonut
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-23 01:07:47 UTC
Incarna v2, just in time for the next expansion.
Zastrow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-23 01:48:37 UTC
I support these ideas fully
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#4 - 2011-11-23 03:50:44 UTC
+1

I always dreamed of having a gun/sword fight in the halls of a low-sec station.

Adapt or Die

BLACK-STAR
#5 - 2011-11-23 06:57:37 UTC
can we get slippers with shoebells on them too?
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#6 - 2011-11-23 11:26:13 UTC
Gooo away....

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#7 - 2011-11-23 11:57:07 UTC
+1 for awesome potential.

That and blades make more sense as weapons in space then laser guns do. It's harder to breach a bulkhead with a sword.
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#8 - 2011-11-23 14:44:32 UTC

So you want to be a Jedi ?

3/10 for trolling..

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#9 - 2011-11-23 15:47:07 UTC
Ya Huei wrote:

So you want to be a Jedi ?

3/10 for trolling..




Um, no. Stop and use your two brain cells for a moment and think about it. In a hostile environment such as space, what weapon are stations and ship captains going to look the other way for, and which one will they come down hard on:

A weapon like a blade that if you miss, you miss.

or

A weapon like a gun or some sort of laser rifle where, if you miss, you kill yourself, your target, and everyone else in the compartment due to a blow out?

Hmm... methinks they're far more likely to allow the knives and swords.
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#10 - 2011-11-23 16:40:23 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Ya Huei wrote:

So you want to be a Jedi ?

3/10 for trolling..




Um, no. Stop and use your two brain cells for a moment and think about it. In a hostile environment such as space, what weapon are stations and ship captains going to look the other way for, and which one will they come down hard on:

A weapon like a blade that if you miss, you miss.

or

A weapon like a gun or some sort of laser rifle where, if you miss, you kill yourself, your target, and everyone else in the compartment due to a blow out?

Hmm... methinks they're far more likely to allow the knives and swords.


Awesome chain of thought you got going on there m8. I still think its a troll, we've kind of established that WIS is dead and buried so lets keep it that way KK ?
Ginia Itonula
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-11-23 16:50:28 UTC
I wish I could like this post more.
Raid'En
#12 - 2011-11-23 17:17:43 UTC
i like the idea, but i doubt the gameplay could be easily done on eve. it would need so much stuff...

shooter duel would be way easier to implement
Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2011-11-23 19:25:47 UTC
I see your katana and raise you ... ramming a Nyx into the side of the station.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Orakkus
Southern Cross Monopoly
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2011-11-23 19:34:56 UTC
Ya Huei wrote:

I still think its a troll, we've kind of established that WIS is dead and buried so lets keep it that way KK ?


WIS is a long, long way from being dead and buried. I figure we'll see them get back to it if CCP plays their cards right on this and the next expansion. CCP has invested far too much time and money to let them go. Plus, I have to agree with Hilmar that it will eventually be an important aspect to the overall future Eve Online experience.

He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#15 - 2011-11-23 22:12:14 UTC
I'm gonna say that WIS is a long way from dead too, simply because I actually enjoy the ambiance of my CQ when not blasting the cookies out of something. If the rest of the station interiors is as good, we'll see a lot less people spinning ships.

However, this would, actually, require CCP to get it's act together.
Thomas Achebe
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-29 08:13:32 UTC
This is the best thing I have read here.
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#17 - 2011-11-29 21:15:41 UTC
Dear CCP,

I refuse to get excited about captain's quarters, the Nex store, or anything else incarna related until I can buy a laser pistol, bust into their captain's quarters, and shoot someone straight in the face.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Bartholemu Fu-Baz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-29 22:48:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Bartholemu Fu-Baz
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:



Um, no. Stop and use your two brain cells for a moment and think about it. In a hostile environment such as space, what weapon are stations and ship captains going to look the other way for, and which one will they come down hard on:

A weapon like a blade that if you miss, you miss.

or

A weapon like a gun or some sort of laser rifle where, if you miss, you kill yourself, your target, and everyone else in the compartment due to a blow out?

Hmm... methinks they're far more likely to allow the knives and swords.


Using this logic our Airmarshals should be armed with ninja blades and throwing stars (which would be kind of cool, come to think of it).

Instead they use something called Frangible Ammo. It breaks apart rather than going through the outer hull of the craft (in theory anyway, less likely to cause depressurization).

I think I'd rather see gunfights than widespread sword fighting, but knife fights is interesting. It messes with my sense of EvE if everyone is running around with cutlasses and rapiers.

Personally I could see integrating something like Deus Ex, which I just ran through recently. Timelines are way off, but tone and content wise, that kind of thing could fit great into EVE.

The more obvious blasters in the bar scenario would be easier to imagine happening.

- Bar
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#19 - 2011-11-30 03:55:20 UTC
Bartholemu Fu-Baz wrote:


Using this logic our Airmarshals should be armed with ninja blades and throwing stars (which would be kind of cool, come to think of it).

Instead they use something called Frangible Ammo. It breaks apart rather than going through the outer hull of the craft (in theory anyway, less likely to cause depressurization).


The problem with that is the moment someone puts on kevlar, those things are useless. A knife, however, will still kill you through a bulletproof vest. And it can be excused as a 'tool' where as a gun is very obviously there for one reason.
Rina Asanari
CitadeI
#20 - 2011-12-01 08:27:46 UTC
Racial captains quarters may have just been introduced because the models were already done, and that may be the last thing to be seen for CQ or WiS for a long time...

...and I wouldn't miss it.

EvE is about flying in space. It's not an FPS, nor is it Star Wars Online, Habbo Hotel or such.

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