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Buff FW - reduce the size of covops cloaks

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#1 - 2014-01-01 19:32:25 UTC
a few patches ago, the size of metal scraps has been significantly reduced so players could pick them up in various pve activities and no longer leave them in space as sacrifice for the holy mega maid.

Many FW pilots face currently the same problem. Various metafarming activities (e.g. killing farmers in stealthbombers) have a high chance to drop covops cloaks. Those covops cloakes however do not fit into the cargoholds of the recently rebalanced interceptors - the metafarmers ship of choice. Arcane stories like "cabin in the woods" taught us, sacrifices must change with time, otherwise the mega maid may become mad - and she does not want to see cloaks anymore.


long story short: please reduce the size of covops cloaks a little bit. It is currently 100m³, 50m³ would be perfect! 75m³ a compromise.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2014-01-01 19:42:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Sure why not.

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Omnathious Deninard
Ministry of Silly Walks.
#3 - 2014-01-01 19:55:39 UTC
Why they were 100m3 to begin with?
50m3 sounds nice to me.

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Tsobai Hashimoto
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-01-01 22:23:18 UTC
I think a better title is needed, at first i was like WTF is this troll thread gonna be lol

Anyways, I think this sounds fine to me..... not really sure why they are 100m anyways,

either way, enjoy popping them FW mission runners, it gives us something to do heh
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2014-01-01 23:31:08 UTC
Just Covert Ops cloaks - or regular cloaks as well?

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Kaerakh
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-01-01 23:50:11 UTC
Cloaks in general should take up less m3 anyways. If the argument is they need a lot of material to cover the ship then we would have different sized cloak for each ship in the game. P
Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#7 - 2014-01-02 00:32:58 UTC
nice stealth "buff cloaks" thread.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-01-02 00:39:39 UTC
Batelle wrote:
nice stealth "buff cloaks" thread.

more like "buff coak hunters" so they dotn have to go abck to the station after every kill, giving the other no-good dirty-dans time to run.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2014-01-02 01:41:23 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Just Covert Ops cloaks - or regular cloaks as well?

oh. i somehow thought normal cloaks take less m³... yeah sure for consistency reasons they should be changed too IMO.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-01-02 09:17:00 UTC
I wonder why they are this huge in the first place. Does it have something to do with material compression thingy?
Thorin Matarielle
Order of Garrulor
#11 - 2014-01-02 18:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorin Matarielle
Absolutely agreed. If an 1400 howitzer only 20m3 and a 100MN MWD only 10m3 the covert ops cloak shouldn't be 100m3.

Sound fine to me. +1
Ice Dealer
Ice Dealer Corporation
#12 - 2014-01-02 18:36:15 UTC
But capital mods are 2,000m3... and I cant fit them in my battleship when I kill a ratting carrier...?
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association
Local Is Primary
#13 - 2014-01-02 19:01:31 UTC
Agree with original Poster Boy Shocked

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#14 - 2014-01-02 19:08:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
Ice Dealer wrote:
But capital mods are 2,000m3... and I cant fit them in my battleship when I kill a ratting carrier...?

yeah. but statistically you will find most covops cloaks on frig and cruiser sized hulls, despite the fact that they have BS size transport volumes.

maybe there is a good reason why they are so large but it seems a bit random tbh.

edit: and don't forget to upload the vid if you solo a carrier in a BS

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#15 - 2014-01-02 21:29:18 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Why they were 100m3 to begin with?
50m3 sounds nice to me.


I can think of two reasons for the large size of the cloak:

To avoid mineral compression (currently its pretty low though 2:1),
To make them harder to bring along (don't want people swapping for cloaks).

The mineral compression is nullified by the introduction of extra materials (making it inefficient for this purpose), and I don't see an issue with people bringing extra cloaks in their hold!

In short, I support this change.